(10-23-2023, 11:17 AM)PhilHos Wrote: Well, one of the problems is one of usage. For whatever reason, whether it's working or not, we stop running the ball as the game goes on.

(10-23-2023, 05:26 PM)tms Wrote: I was never thrilled with the Brown pick and he's done nothing to change my mind. Granted, he's had virtually no opportunities. But I can hardly think of a drive where I thought, "We could really use Chase Brown here!" It's just one of those ideas that sounds better during the week than during the games.

Mixon gets a lot of flack but I'm happy with him. He's ball-secure, he falls forward and he's accountable. He doesn't turn the corner very much but I don't know what corner there is to be turned when your QB can't stand under center, and you're taking every snap out of the gun. Maybe most importantly, he's durable. We can dream about Chase Brown, fantasize about Evans' versatility or pine for Williams to emerge- and I'm guilty of all those things myself. But the reality is that we have no functional depth at that position. If Mixon goes down for any length of time we are screwed imo. But if he doesn't I do think we'll be okay.

(10-23-2023, 10:28 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Or at least he could be coming.

IMO I think Chase Brown is or should get a lot more opportunities out of the bye week. It's PAINFULLY obvious that Mixon and his 4.3 YPA aren't really cutting it. Is it an OL/scheme problem or a Joe Mixon problem? Im really not here to debate that and Im not really sure I care to debate it anymore...

What I do know is that this running game needs some SPEED and a shake up. Someone that can make people miss, catch out of the backfield, and break off an explosive run or two and to take some of the load off Mixon.

It's kind of mind blowing that they don't have a package installed for Chase Brown to take advantage of his speed (it's elite accoring to his RAS score, BTW). The offense overall is lacking a guy like him. I really look forward to him getting more work and opportunity in the second half - USE HIM!

(10-23-2023, 07:42 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Speak for yourself, I've wanted to see Brown get more involved in both the rushing and receiving aspects of the offense.  I'd love to see the Bengals go West Coast for a series or two each game, feature the run, passes to the backs and hit the WRs short and let them break a tackle for some YAC.  

(10-23-2023, 12:05 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: 5’9 215 isn’t small for a rb.

CMC 5’11 210
Ekeler  5’10 200
Pollard 6’ 215
Kenneth walker 5’9 211
Kamara 5’10 215
Etienne 5’10 215
Bijan 5’11 215

I stole this, but this guy put together a guide.   He took an average of the heights and weights of the 109 active running backs* across the league.


Average Height of an NFL Running Back
The average height of an NFL Running Back is 70.66 inches (just over 5’10 1/2″).

Average Weight of an NFL Running Back
The average weight of an NFL Running Back is 213.17 pounds.

(10-23-2023, 12:13 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: I'm not asking him to run it between the tackles 30 times a game. I'm asking him for 5-6 touches to start. Increase that as the year goes on if he shines. No reason why he shouldn't be able to handle a 12-15 touch workload. 

(10-25-2023, 09:29 AM)PDub80 Wrote: Sure, but those guys listed are all dynamically better than Chase Brown. He isn't particularly fast or elusive. Nor is he a prolific receiver of the football. The guys on that list certainly are.

(10-25-2023, 09:29 AM)PDub80 Wrote: Sure, but those guys listed are all dynamically better than Chase Brown. He isn't particularly fast or elusive. Nor is he a prolific receiver of the football. The guys on that list certainly are.

If a RB is on the smaller side (Brown is) then he needs to be super dynamic in other ways to make up for the lack of size. He looks like a JAG when he touches the ball... Just A Guy. Evans has shown dynamic ability as a runner and receiver. It's just so odd to me that he continues to sit.

The knock on him during the preseason was that he bounced outside and freelanced too much as well as his lack of pass pro, so they benched him last year.

This preseason the guy stuck his nose between tackles, ran the plays called, and had some excellent pass pro. Evans did very well this preseason, IMO. This was all heavily noted by several beat writers. Yet, Evans sits.

(10-25-2023, 10:18 AM)The D.O.Z. Wrote: It's tough to see what we have in C. Brown because while he may have played in the preseason, Zac trotted out back-up offensive lines filled with guys who are either not on the team anymore or borderline PS guys for him to run behind.

(10-25-2023, 02:10 PM)chrisball96 Wrote: Exactly. I mean I know we aren't committed to running the ball, but I find it hard to justify why the kid has only been on the field for 8 plays this entire year.

(10-25-2023, 10:09 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Since when is running a 4.3 40 yard dash not considered fast enough for a RB?

(10-23-2023, 10:31 AM)kalibengal Wrote: TBF; 4.3 YPA is solid...but yes I totally agree about Chase Brown..
its time to let him have his shot. I saw him as our Austin Ekeler.  
When is the last time we had a rush TD that went for 50 yds or more? I cant even recall. 

(10-25-2023, 10:50 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: 40 times are outdated measure and he ran a 4.43 in combinesame time that Mixon did out of college, I don't remember us saying he was a burner 

(10-25-2023, 02:47 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Honestly, I kind of think that Zac and Co. were so caught up in modifying the passing game to accommodate Burrow's physical limitations to start the year that they just entirely lost sight of other aspects of the offense.  Hopefully with Burrow now fully healthy they can maybe focus on presenting a complete offensive game plan, rather than an abbreviated dink and dunk play set centered around getting rid of the ball in 2 seconds?

(10-26-2023, 08:28 AM)chrisball96 Wrote: Exactly. The deeper we can throw it the defense will have to honor it and play back some. That will hopefully lead to chances to run it more effectively. My only question is whether Zac will give Brown a shot even in those favorable situations or if it will still continue to be exclusively Mixon.