(12-25-2023, 08:30 PM)casear2727 Wrote: What?  Where do you get these numbers? 

(12-25-2023, 08:34 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: I wasn’t stating these numbers as a fact; I was asking Nicomo if they were accurate.  In a post he said the Steelers were 3-6 in the playoffs over last ten years.  He’s usually spot-on with statistics.

(12-25-2023, 08:51 PM)casear2727 Wrote: He is correct.  Why do you think each number represents a different year?  

We went 2-1 last year in the playoffs and 3-1 in 2021.  That is 5 wins and 2 losses in 2 years.......

(12-25-2023, 04:26 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Both did , splitting hairs with how bad.. both did a good job turning them around but ZT has had more success

(12-25-2023, 04:33 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: I’d have to look at the age of the rosters. But I’m not living in the past. I care about where the team is today after Zac built it. Since 2021 he has more wins than Baltimore, Pitt, & Cleveland plus two AFC title appeances (1 win) and a Super Bowl appearance. They have none.  He’s 5-2 in the playoffs and has 5 playoff wins. The Bengals last playoff win 1990. Freaking 31 years ago when he won one…  and now he’s got 5. Build him a statute.

(12-26-2023, 06:18 AM)BengalYankee Wrote: Lol. Where did you learn math?

The difference between 2-14 and 6-10 is 60%!!!

No splitting hairs Marvin inherited a horrible team. 

Your venom should be against Dick LeBeau. 

(12-26-2023, 03:19 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I was just having an argument about Tomlin with a Bengals fan on Facebook the other day. 

I compared him to Marvin Lewis and said he only won the SB with Cowher's team and staff. Once that dried up, he's been 3-7 in the playoffs over the last 13 seasons, missed the playoffs 6 times (possibly 7), with playoff losses to the likes of Tim Tebow, Blake Bortles, Baker Mayfield and the broken husk of Peyton Manning.

Most overrated coach in NFL history, imo. He's not terrible, but people talk like he's a HOF coach when the results just aren't there. He's twice as likely to not make the playoffs at all than to win a playoff game.

He'd also be 2-8 in the playoffs since the last Super Bowl if Jeremy Hill holds on to the ball. The guy almost out Marvin'd Marvin, when Marvin had a backup QB.

"No losing seasons" is cool, but a low bar for success. He hasn't done anything great in over 10 years.

Ironically, a Steelers fan agreed with me and said Steelers fans make the Marvin comparison often.

(12-26-2023, 06:23 AM)BengalYankee Wrote:

(12-24-2023, 02:34 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Ha, imagine saying that before the season started.  I think we can make a run, as long as we don't run into Joe Flacco and the Browns in the playoffs!

(12-26-2023, 10:01 AM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: Flacco has a good chance to take them to the SB and it's without Chubb - how much sense does that make, that team is built for the long haul pending any contract situations. Really it's only the Ravens that stand in their way right now and Flacco wouldn't have something ot play for? A Flacco vs Lamar game in the playoffs is all the NFL wants right now, with Flacco yelling into the camera at end "you never shoulda ***** made me retire!".

(12-26-2023, 10:22 AM)Bronxbengal Wrote: To me it’s more than just the QB but having a well rounded and deep roster.  Give the Browns credit.  They have unfortunately convinced me they have a contending Super Bowl team.  It sucks because I live in the Cleveland area and there is nothing worse than obnoxious Cleveland fans.  They are more tolerable when they are miserable.


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(12-25-2023, 05:47 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Not really fair to include years where Zac sucked against everyone. Or I should say those years don't really indicate that Zac has always struggled against just the division.

More accurately, Zac sucked against everyone for 2 years, then he was solid against the division for 2 years, now he is unbelievably terrible against the division while being great (8-2) against everyone else.

This paints a picture that Zac was likely rebuilding for 2 years, got a good team going, but now the division has been drafting to stop us and has had a few years to study the offense and defense.

At least, IMO, anyways.

(12-26-2023, 01:38 PM)2MinutesHate Wrote: That is a good point.  I forgot about the first Dalton year which was really bad.  But still, it appears the rest of the North has figured us out.  We played Baltimore kinda tough both games (before Burrow got hurt) but the other 3 division games, we really got pushed around.


I think Zac has an opportunity to redefine himself and use the offseason to beat the other 3 at their own game.  Good hard-nosed football with a balanced offense that can run the ball.  We've got the best QB in the division so I think it would actually help Joe.  I'd let Higgins walk and use the savings to dedicate to the run game and defense.

If you can't win your division, a Super Bowl win will be even more unlikely.  

(12-26-2023, 10:22 AM)Bronxbengal Wrote: To me it’s more than just the QB but having a well rounded and deep roster.  Give the Browns credit.  They have unfortunately convinced me they have a contending Super Bowl team.  It sucks because I live in the Cleveland area and there is nothing worse than obnoxious Cleveland fans.  They are more tolerable when they are miserable.


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(12-25-2023, 07:47 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: You all are too funny. Tomlin is 3-6 in the playoffs over the last 10 years. The only time he’s made it past the divisional round during that timeframe he got smoked by 20 points.

And you want that over a coach that recently went to a Super Bowl and back-to-back AFC Championship games (the one he lost coming by a last minute FG).

But hey “hARd NoSe fOoTBaLl!!!”

(12-25-2023, 08:22 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Tomlin lost back-to-back games to two 2 win teams at home.  His own players quit on the filed.  Some of these takes are so bad I wonder if they just being sarcastic. 

(12-26-2023, 03:13 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Exactly, if Zac would of lost to terrible teams like that he would be getting crucified on here.

(12-26-2023, 03:15 PM)PhilHos Wrote: To be fair, we literally just got embarrassed by one this past Saturday.

(12-26-2023, 03:15 PM)PhilHos Wrote: To be fair, we literally just got embarrassed by one this past Saturday.

(12-26-2023, 03:16 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: By a 2 loss team?