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RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - bfine32 - 03-23-2024 (03-23-2024, 07:51 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Bit early for that. (03-23-2024, 11:21 PM)Housh Wrote: Dude what? Lol RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - Housh - 03-24-2024 (03-23-2024, 11:58 PM)bfine32 Wrote: SOB smh Got me RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - Fan_in_Kettering - 03-25-2024 Logan Wilson or Sam Hubbard, or if drafted, Tommy Eichenberg. RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - Lucius Cincinnatus - 03-25-2024 (03-25-2024, 12:15 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Logan Wilson or Sam Hubbard, or if drafted, Tommy Eichenberg. If those are the guys we consider our cornerstone players, we're in trouble. RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-25-2024 (03-23-2024, 11:25 PM)Housh Wrote: Maybe it’s our fault for running with the narrative Dax was our best player covering TE's last year, fact. RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-25-2024 (03-24-2024, 12:16 PM)Housh Wrote: SOB smh Was pretty funny though. RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - JoeyB2023 - 04-01-2024 (03-25-2024, 12:21 PM)Lucius Cincinnatus Wrote: If those are the guys we consider our cornerstone players, we're in trouble. Couldn’t agree more. Hubbard should be cut Wilson should be restructured and echinshit is not the answer. RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - samhain - 04-01-2024 Terrion Arnold. RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - JoeyB2023 - 04-02-2024 (04-01-2024, 10:18 PM)samhain Wrote: Terrion Arnold. Let’s gooooo. Gimme him Kingsley and Jackson RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - Housh - 04-02-2024 If we talkin a young guy already on the team then Iv got nothing The answer is we simply don’t have the phenomenal guy on D that everyone else in the division has Iv seen some CTB votes but he isn’t there yet Also teams usually never build around corner Even when Jets had Revis they were building that front 7 first RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - fortyyearfan - 04-02-2024 (03-15-2024, 02:35 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: This is a great question and one I had a while ago. We really don’t have that impact player behind Hendrickson. Maybe it is stone? I would have thought it was Wilson, but last year was brutal. Hopefully just an injury they slowed him down. Remember all the other teams in our division got much better and the draft is going to help them all.Its going to come down to whoever stays healthy and I have my doubts on Burrow making it through a full season.We need a dominate defensive player out of this draft and a top O linemen that is nfl ready.I seriously believe with this division so tough, 10 or 11 wins will be all we get and I believe the ravens will win the division,just sayin.I do not believe in this team just yet to go all the way.We shall see,I so hope they do as I am running out of time being 77 years young and I am a retired decorated Vietnam veteran served with the 1st Cav in 66-67 Who-Dey RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - ochocincos - 04-02-2024 If the Bengals really would plan to use him like a Swiss army knife, I'd say maybe Dax Hill. I don't think it would be a LB since the emphasis seems to be on DB and DL for this team. This defense has lived and died on the performance of Hendrickson, but he's getting up there now. My only thought other than Hill would be Murphy, but he's not in a prominent enough role yet. A new pass rushing IDL would be fantastic to build around, personally. Newton or Murphy in Rd 1, or Fiske on Day 2. RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - depthchart - 04-02-2024 (04-02-2024, 02:28 PM)ochocincos Wrote: If the Bengals really would plan to use him like a Swiss army knife, I'd say maybe Dax Hill. and/or maybe a Shut Down Corner. The Chiefs had 2 really good Corners in 2023. Corner Quinyon Mitchell may be a solid selection at 6 foot 195 lbs 4.33 forty - Close to 200 pounds & fast. FWIW Mel Kiper has him mocked at #15 to the Colts. Being from Toledo (a smaller School) maybe Mitchell can get to pick #18. The Bengals Defense needs a Top end Corner in my opinion and it would also improve the Depth. RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - ochocincos - 04-02-2024 (04-02-2024, 02:46 PM)depthchart Wrote: and/or maybe a Shut Down Corner. Most defenses don't build around a CB though. RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - depthchart - 04-02-2024 (04-02-2024, 02:56 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Most defenses don't build around a CB though. Ok I'll say a Key Piece then. The Chiefs Top 2 Defensive Players in 2023 were Chris Jones DT & Corner Trent McDuffie. Having Corner Quinyon Mitchell on a 5 year rookie deal might be a Key Piece to think about. RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - ochocincos - 04-02-2024 (04-02-2024, 03:35 PM)depthchart Wrote: Ok I guess, but if you want the Bengals to be built more for the AFC North, the AFC North teams don't have dominant passing attacks to need a lockdown CB. Chiefs also don't have a stud WR. Steelers built around Watt. Browns built around Garrett. Ravens built in the middle - Roquan Smith and Kyle Hamilton. An IDL specifically has been the biggest difference maker in the past few Super Bowls. Chris Jones and Aaron Donald. Bengals don't have a menace on the inside. RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - depthchart - 04-02-2024 (04-02-2024, 03:46 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I guess, but if you want the Bengals to be built more for the AFC North, the AFC North teams don't have dominant passing attacks to need a lockdown CB. The Ravens also have 3 time Pro Bowl Corner Marlon Humphrey (All Pro in 2019) The Chiefs have ALL Pro Corner Trent McDuffie. While waiting for the next Aaron Donald to become available the Bengals could add a Top Corner like the Ravens & Chiefs have.. RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - ochocincos - 04-02-2024 (04-02-2024, 04:02 PM)depthchart Wrote: The Ravens also have 3 time Pro Bowl Corner Marlon Humphrey (All Pro in 2019) Are you saying you don't think Murphy, Newton, or Fiske can be a dominant IDL and should therefore take a CB over one of them? And/Or are you saying you don't think Turner nor Hill could end up blossoming into a really good CB? What if Mitchell doesn't perform for most/part of his 1st year? Should the Bengals look to get yet another CB because he didn't start great immediately? RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - samhain - 04-02-2024 (04-02-2024, 12:08 PM)JoeyB2023 Wrote: Let’s gooooo. Gimme him Kingsley and Jackson I wouldn't hate it. He'd take the secondary from good enough to legit. Doubt he fall to us, though. RE: Who is the guy we are building the defense around for the next cycle? - depthchart - 04-02-2024 (04-02-2024, 04:56 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Are you saying you don't think Murphy, Newton, or Fiske can be a dominant IDL and should therefore take a CB over one of them? When I first responded to your Post you were mentioning Dax Hill & DT's like Murphy, Newton or Fiske. I then replied "and/or maybe a Shut Down Corner" In the Draft area earlier today, I Mocked Braden Fiske in round 2 to the Bengals with Quinyon Mitchell in round 1. Murphy in round one would be fine with me over Newton but Newton could work for me also. If Quinyon Mitchell was selected by the Bengals, I would anticipate that he would become better than Turner or Hill. More than 2 Corners can be on the Field in various packages and the Group as a whole would be better (IMO) Plus an injury or two to the Corner Group won't hurt the Team as bad. A Corner in round 1 is an option to me. (maybe not to you & that is fine -or- you may like another 1st round Corner better) |