(04-05-2024, 02:51 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Give me Newton or Murphy too and cut BJ Hill and man would our interior pass rush be improved along with our run Defense.

Both Newton and Murphy are great at stopping the run and rushing the passer and Murphy can play NT.

(04-05-2024, 07:15 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Nu-uh!

There's only 4 nose tackles in the draft! Just look at the weight of the prospects.


I agree, multiples DT's can play NT, though not as good of pure run stuffers, they push the pocket well and are more than worthy of consideration.


But if you disagree, I am certain there are multiple scouting reports on reddit and Walterfootball that will prove you wrong.

(04-05-2024, 06:34 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Honestly, I don't see any solid/strong starter like Hilton or Hill being cut, particularly in the name of *cap savings*. The only personnel move that I could foresee is Higgins getting traded during the draft, to a team that missed out on the top 3 WRs in this class, and even that wouldn't be in the name of *cap savings* as much as getting draft capital to make the team better.

As for Tyler Boyd coming back to the team, their silence speaks loudly in that they haven't elected to match Pittsburgh's offer of $10M over 2 years.  They indeed want to be younger at the WR position, as they see a couple of OL starters needing replaced in the next two years.

(04-05-2024, 07:20 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote:

That is what is so nice about Byron Murphy, he can do both. I know he looks tiny next to Sweat but that doesn't mean anything 
when talking about positions in the scheme they play. Maason Smith who we just brought in can also play multiple positions all 
across the DL. Don't be surprised with a Fautanu/Maason Smith start to the Draft for the Bengals.

(04-05-2024, 06:34 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Honestly, I don't see any solid/strong starter like Hilton or Hill being cut, particularly in the name of *cap savings*. The only personnel move that I could foresee is Higgins getting traded during the draft, to a team that missed out on the top 3 WRs in this class, and even that wouldn't be in the name of *cap savings* as much as getting draft capital to make the team better.

As for Tyler Boyd coming back to the team, their silence speaks loudly in that they haven't elected to match Pittsburgh's offer of $10M over 2 years.  They indeed want to be younger at the WR position, as they see a couple of OL starters needing replaced in the next two years.

(04-05-2024, 07:25 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: That is why Murphy is my ideal first round pick. Can play both spots, no question marks,  but get the foreshadowing.

I hate that the biggest positions of need, IMO, are the ones where the coaching has show the least ability to make improvements (O-line, D-line).

Maybe that makes the argument for taking a WR, TE, RB, or CB instead?  blech

(04-05-2024, 07:43 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: No doubt, that is the problem alright. We need to be able to coach up the trenches and the trench coaches especially Pollack have been 
bad to say the least at this. It is why we always have to push for Free Agents in the trenches. But sooner or later we need our coaches to 
be able to coach up the Draft picks.

But it will be easier for the coaches with more polished players, Murphy is polished.

(04-05-2024, 07:49 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Makes for an interesting concept.

How long will it be until the "Burrow Effect" transitions to the coaching staff?

(04-05-2024, 02:51 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Give me Newton or Murphy too and cut BJ Hill and man would our interior pass rush be improved along with our run Defense.

Both Newton and Murphy are great at stopping the run and rushing the passer and Murphy can play NT.

(04-05-2024, 01:22 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Even if Bowers is there?

(04-05-2024, 10:08 PM)sandwedge Wrote: We have no depth behind Rankins or Hill. Cutting BJ would make it very weak on the DL.. Unless you think Carter is the answer, I don't.

(04-06-2024, 10:24 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Cutting BJ is an insane idea. The man consistently makes plays when we need the most. How many interceptions did he have last year at the DT spot?

(04-05-2024, 11:36 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: tbh i don't even care. Why bother? Between the Bengals, Reds, Bearcats and Wildcats, this area is a shit show for sports "entertainment". No matter what any of them do, they'll end up ***** it up in the end. Have a ***** annoying day at work just to come home and watch the Reds **** up all night and lose. Then watch NC State lose in their final 4 game and now after not really paying attention until recently, i watch the Iowa game and of course they're shitting the bed. I ***** absolutely hate teams that win all the time. Oh, look. It's the UConn women in the final 4 again. It must be nice being a fan in an area where the teams do nothing but win all the damn time. Could you imagine living in the New England area the last 20 years or so. Or around the bay area? All those damn teams do nothing but win and i get to do nothing but watch shit year after year. I've got no more patience for the bullshit that goes on with the teams around here or the teams i try to root for because they do nothing but lose. 

Zack Edey can suck a dick because he does nothing but stand under the basket because he's twice as big as anyone else, but how much do you wanna bet when they meet Uconn in the finals, Uconn wins AGAIN. I'm about done with sports entirely because it's nothing but frustrating bullshit all the time. 

(04-06-2024, 10:31 AM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Two.

(04-07-2024, 10:23 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Abd how many did all the other DT's combined have? BJ's not the best DT in the league by any stretch, but he is very valuable and comes up big at the right time. 

(04-06-2024, 10:31 AM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Two.

(04-05-2024, 11:36 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: tbh i don't even care. Why bother? Between the Bengals, Reds, Bearcats and Wildcats, this area is a shit show for sports "entertainment". No matter what any of them do, they'll end up ***** it up in the end. Have a ***** annoying day at work just to come home and watch the Reds **** up all night and lose. Then watch NC State lose in their final 4 game and now after not really paying attention until recently, i watch the Iowa game and of course they're shitting the bed. I ***** absolutely hate teams that win all the time. Oh, look. It's the UConn women in the final 4 again. It must be nice being a fan in an area where the teams do nothing but win all the damn time. Could you imagine living in the New England area the last 20 years or so. Or around the bay area? All those damn teams do nothing but win and i get to do nothing but watch shit year after year. I've got no more patience for the bullshit that goes on with the teams around here or the teams i try to root for because they do nothing but lose. 

Zack Edey can suck a dick because he does nothing but stand under the basket because he's twice as big as anyone else, but how much do you wanna bet when they meet Uconn in the finals, Uconn wins AGAIN. I'm about done with sports entirely because it's nothing but frustrating bullshit all the time.