(04-26-2024, 03:36 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: He's a football player, not up for Sainthood. 

He was barely over the limit. He was not seriously impaired or much of a danger in my view. He wrecked because a drunker driver rear-ended him....and then fled the scene. Sweat couod have took off too, I believe, but he did not. 

To me, it just is not that big a deal. 

Now, was it terribly wise? No. But wisdom & character are not the same thing. He's 22. 

Joe Mixon did far worse things & we drafted him round 2. 

Now, I think there are flags about his dedication/weight management. 

I am on record saying letting Reader go was stupidity personified. Especially in our division. 

But I'd have been thrilled with Sweat at #49 three weeks ago and nothing in the last 3xweeksxhas changed my perception of him as a player. 

Kiper has/had him top 50. Maybe I take a chance on him slipping to Rd3 if there is fantastic balue at CB/WR/IOL at #49. But I'd be ecstatic with Sweat. 

(04-26-2024, 01:04 AM)Bengalstripes9 Wrote: If it were me I’d trade up for Newton.

(04-26-2024, 11:37 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: I think there are questions about his ability to be effective as a Nose, with double times and from what ive read though low center base he tends to come upright more off snap..I like him just don;t know if the right fit especially to trade up for , just not a great year for DTs in draft

(04-26-2024, 10:57 AM)Nepa Wrote: I'd be curious if Sweat is still on the Bengals board. If he got a DWI less than a month before the draft, then can the Bengals count on him to not make a similar mistake before a playoff game or the Superbowl, ala Stanley Wilson? Is he a player that the Bengals staff would have to watch like a hawk, like the Reds had to do with the talented Josh Hamilton.

(04-26-2024, 11:40 AM)sandwedge Wrote: I agree on Newton. I wouldn't trade up to get him, but he would be in the discussion at 49.  I do like Fiske and Hall Jr also!

(04-26-2024, 11:42 AM)Memphis_Bengal Wrote: While it was undoubtedly a dumb decision, comparing it to Stanley Wilson's all night cocaine bender before the super bowl is silly. He was slightly over the legal limit and did not cause the accident. He has an older brother playing in the league already with the Eagles who can help guide him to making better decisions. He is a huge man with athleticism you don't often see. I would be fine with him as a round 2 pick

https://longhornswire.usatoday.com/lists/texas-football-longhorns-tvondre-sweat-nfl-combine-40-yard-dash-reactions-weight-highlights/

(04-26-2024, 12:23 PM)Nepa Wrote: Well, I was going to add that before the DWI, Sweat had worked to convince NFL teams that he wasn't a "party animal," which is the wording used by the The Athletic’s Dane Brugler to describe him.  And Brugler had him as a 4th round pick prior to the DWI.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nfl-ncaa-news-active-news-party-animal-tvondre-sweats-fourth-round-grade-takes-a-hit-as-off-field-misdemeanor-could-ward-off-cincinnati-bengals/

(04-26-2024, 11:37 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: I think there are questions about his ability to be effective as a Nose, with double times and from what ive read though low center base he tends to come upright more off snap..I like him just don;t know if the right fit especially to trade up for , just not a great year for DTs in draft

(04-26-2024, 12:13 PM)shanebo Wrote: Assuming that the projected first rounders -- Newton, DeJean, McKinstry, Mitchell, McConkey, Powers-Johnson -- are gone when we pick, I see us targeting DT, WR, and CB:

DT – Sweat, Jenkins, Hall, Orhorhoro, Smith
WR – Polk, Franklin, Coleman
CB – Rakestraw, Lassiter, Tampa, Melton

Any of these guys would be a solid get, but would be thrilled with Polk or Franklin at WR or Sweat, Jenkins, or Hall at DT.

Potential wildcards are Beebe (OG) and Frazier ©, but I doubt we'll go IOL.

(04-26-2024, 10:22 AM)ShowMeUrTDs Wrote: He was projected first rounder by all projections out there. 

(04-26-2024, 02:25 AM)Bilbo Saggins Wrote: Call me crazy, but I would kind of like it if they went with Paul, Suamataia, or Amegadjie.  One of those could push Volson or be a high end backup at LT/LG.  Maybe they could work their way up to being the first OT off the bench if Mims doesn't come along quickly.  The Saints found a home for the super lanky/high cut Andrus Peat at LG so it's not unheard of.

Frazier would be a slam dunk.

Ruke Orhorhoro could be a complete player at DT.

(04-26-2024, 03:36 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: He's a football player, not up for Sainthood. 

He was barely over the limit. He was not seriously impaired or much of a danger in my view. He wrecked because a drunker driver rear-ended him....and then fled the scene. Sweat couod have took off too, I believe, but he did not. 

To me, it just is not that big a deal. 

Now, was it terribly wise? No. But wisdom & character are not the same thing. He's 22. 

Joe Mixon did far worse things & we drafted him round 2. 

Now, I think there are flags about his dedication/weight management. 

I am on record saying letting Reader go was stupidity personified. Especially in our division. 

But I'd have been thrilled with Sweat at #49 three weeks ago and nothing in the last 3xweeksxhas changed my perception of him as a player. 

Kiper has/had him top 50. Maybe I take a chance on him slipping to Rd3 if there is fantastic balue at CB/WR/IOL at #49. But I'd be ecstatic with Sweat. 

(04-26-2024, 01:24 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Zach Frazier please.

LG is a problem and our C is heading into both his age 31 season and his contract year.

(04-26-2024, 12:45 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Good list. And I agree 100% on the targets. I love Fiske at DT. I think we might really like Sainristill at CB though I would not draft a nickel.