(04-28-2024, 09:40 AM)Ell Prez Wrote: We had a good draft and I think we got some good players. Especially Mims. But we can’t just be like, oh Hendrickson might retire so don’t worry we addressed it with a 6th round DE. All good, bye Trey!


We used a 1st on Murphy and he can’t even replace what Hendrickson brings. I think the most we can say is we got a RT who can play if need to, due to injury. We got a couple DT that we needed, hopefully they can help stop the run. We got a couple TE- we’ll see but we needed to fill that position. We got a WR who should be starting #3. He should beat out Andrei and Jones. And the rest is a giant question mark, odds are they are all back ups or irrelevant in a couple years.


Every fan base thinks they got better after this weekend. And they did. But did they get better than their competitors?

(04-28-2024, 11:04 AM)sandwedge Wrote: What DE in this draft is going to give you 17.5 sacks? Hendrickson isn't going anywhere.

(04-28-2024, 09:45 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Realistically, barring injury, Burton might be the only guy we see much of this season.
Burton will be WR3/4 in the offense.

Jenkins (and likely Jackson) will be in the rotation this season, but that will limit snaps.

Mims won't see much time on the field in games at all as long as the Browns are healthy.

This was a draft primarily to develop for next year's departing guys.

(04-28-2024, 10:02 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: I think this is the best objective synopsis I’ve seen. I think it’s a B not B-.  But it has a potential to be much much better. https://atozsports.com/cincinnati/bengals-2024-nfl-draft-class-final-grades/

(04-28-2024, 11:14 AM)sandwedge Wrote: I think we will see Mims a little more than we think. There's the jumbo package and I think he will spell Williams at times. I hope Williams doesn't get hurt, but Mims is here just in case.
I do agree that we took players for the future. It allows us to cut vets at the end of their term and not rely on rookies to keep the train running. Great planning!

(04-28-2024, 11:49 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Jonah Williams who is no longer on the team?
You mean Trent Brown?

I think if anything, it would be just as an extra OL, but that's few snaps.
I mean unless injury occurs to Trent or Orlando, we won't see Mims for 300+ snaps this rookie season.

(04-28-2024, 11:49 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Jonah Williams who is no longer on the team?
You mean Trent Brown?

I think if anything, it would be just as an extra OL, but that's few snaps.
I mean unless injury occurs to Trent or Orlando, we won't see Mims for 300+ snaps this rookie season.

(04-28-2024, 11:48 AM)Joelist Wrote: We'll see Jenkins and Jackson regularly as they are half of the DT room. Mims we'll see in spots early and more by season's end. Burton will also be seen some.

(04-27-2024, 10:15 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: CINCINNATI BENGALS: B+

1 (18): T Amarius Mims, Georgia
2 (49): DI Kris Jenkins, Michigan
3 (80): WR Jermaine Burton, Alabama
3 (96): DI McKinnley Jackson, Texas A&M
4 (115): TE Erick All, Iowa
5 (149): CB Josh Newton, TCU
6 (194): TE Tanner McLachlan, Arizona
6 (214): EDGE Cedric Johnson, Ole Miss
7 (224): S Daijahn Anthony, Ole Miss
7 (237): C Matt Lee, Miami Fl.

Mims — Cincinnati beefs up its pass protection in front of Joe Burrow by adding the massive Mims. He’s a fantastic athlete for his size but struggled with injuries at Georgia. Regardless, he allowed just six quarterback pressures across 402 career pass-blocking snaps and should start very soon, as Trent Brown is only a short-term solution at right tackle.

Jenkins — Jenkins is arguably the pound-for-pound strongest player in the draft. His 87.2 run-defense grade since 2022 ranked fifth among Power Five interior defenders, while his 82.7 PFF grade in 2023 ranked third among Big Ten interior defenders. Jenkins lacks length and an ideal pass-rush package, but his power alone will have him on the field on Sundays.

Burton — Despite sliding a bit due to some off-field concerns, Burton has a three-level skill set with great explosiveness and impressive ball skills. He didn’t drop any of his 57 targets this past season and could be a solid complement to Ja’Marr Chase and Tee Higgins from Day 1 due to his downfield playmaking ability.

Jackson — Jackson projects as a nose or three-technique in a 4-3 defensive scheme because he excels as a one-gap penetrator. He’s limited by a lack of length, but that didn’t stop him from racking up 34 run stops since 2022 (third-most in the SEC) with 14 of them for no gain or loss (fifth in the SEC). He’ll need to learn to hold up to double team blocks and develop a pass-rush repertoire, but he can be successful in a rotation.

All — The Bengals find a potential long-term starter in the fourth round, with All ranking as the third-best tight end on the PFF big board. His 2.62 yards per route in 2023 ranked second among draft-eligible tight ends.

Newton — Ranking 12th among Big-12 cornerbacks, Newton earned an 87.7 PFF grade combined over the past two seasons. Across 413 coverage snaps last year, he allowed just one touchdown.

McLachlan — The Bengals doubled up on tight ends by adding the safe-handed McLachlan. He didn’t drop a single pass from 45 catchable targets in 2023. His 530 receiving yards and four touchdowns were both career highs.

Johnson — Johnson has a solid size-speed combination for an edge defender this late in the draft and offered solid production in his final season in college. From 850 pass-rushing snaps over the past three seasons, he racked up 107 quarterback pressures, including 13 sacks.

Anthony — Anthony allowed just one touchdown across 394 coverage snaps in 2023. Opposing quarterbacks managed a passer rating of just 54.7 when targeting him in coverage.

Lee — Lee was exceptional in 2023 with the Hurricanes, ranking 10th among FBS centers in PFF grade (79.1). He didn’t allow a single sack on 414 pass-blocking snaps, and his 89.1 PFF pass-blocking grade ranked third among FBS centers. Lee is well worth a swing here for the Bengals, a team that continues to find value late in the draft.

The Bengals 2024 draft class grade ⬇️https://t.co/QeZRiLA6ae

— PFF CIN Bengals (@PFF_Bengals) April 27, 2024

(04-28-2024, 11:58 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I may be wrong, but I think we will see Burton a lot. The Ravens hit on Flowers a year ago, it is not uncommon for a rookie WR to play a lot in the NFL. I think Worthy will play a lot for the Chiefs and there are 3 other WR's taken in top 10 who will definitely start immediately if healthy. 

I think Burton will benefit from teams having to focus on Chase, Higgins and Gesicki. The good news for him is he does not have to be WR1 or WR2 for us. I see him challenging Jones for time on the field. Jones to me is more possession and Burton is more of a vertical threat. 

I am very excited about our offense in 2024. 

(04-28-2024, 12:04 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Kiper gave us a "B'. He said we reached for Burton and a couple of others. My problem with guys like Kiper is they make their big board and if the team grabs guys only he ranked in similar spots, he gives them an "A". He never takes into account a team with 10 picks versus a team with 5 or 6 picks.

I will add listening to him every time a guy is picked, he seems to rave about them.

Our draft may be a 'B" which is OK if our FA was also a "B". Our off season equals the sum of addition minus subtraction using all off season moves.

(04-28-2024, 11:53 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I want our team peaking in November or December. Can you say with 100% certainty Mims won't beat out Brown? The Bengals have a very small investment in Brown, he is paid like a backup RT already. 

I love Mims and Brown will compete for a starting job in 2024. Now, we need someone to come in via FA and challenge Volson in camp as well.

(04-28-2024, 11:48 AM)Joelist Wrote: We'll see Jenkins and Jackson regularly as they are half of the DT room. Mims we'll see in spots early and more by season's end. Burton will also be seen some.

(04-28-2024, 12:58 PM)ochocincos Wrote: As a rookie? I don't see him beating him out this season.
I think he'll serve the entire year as swing tackle and take over at RT next year once Brown is gone.
Bengals haven't traditionally moved a veteran to backup unless that veteran was playing like hot garbage like Nick Scott last year.

(04-28-2024, 12:04 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Kiper gave us a "B'. He said we reached for Burton and a couple of others. My problem with guys like Kiper is they make their big board and if the team grabs guys only he ranked in similar spots, he gives them an "A". He never takes into account a team with 10 picks versus a team with 5 or 6 picks.

I will add listening to him every time a guy is picked, he seems to rave about them.

Our draft may be a 'B" which is OK if our FA was also a "B". Our off season equals the sum of addition minus subtraction using all off season moves.