(10-04-2024, 02:11 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I didn't say he was a bad player for us. I said he played poorly, namely tackling the year we didn't offer him an extension and gave him the Tag.

Bates did play great his rookie season, not as good his sophomore season and fantastic in the Playoffs for us.

But we were never going to bring him back, it was always Bell and hoping someone could grow into the future FS. It is not Dax.

Luckily Dax is finding his nitch at boundary Corner at times, just needs to tackle better.

Stone hasn't been that good with us either, too bad.

(10-04-2024, 12:58 PM)Sled21 Wrote: All I'm saying is it is easy for people to remember the good, but tend to forget all the board discussions about Bates' poor mid-season play, his head being in a funk, etc. Bates is a great football player, when he wants to be. 

(10-04-2024, 02:11 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I didn't say he was a bad player for us. I said he played poorly, namely tackling the year we didn't offer him an extension and gave him the Tag.

Bates did play great his rookie season, not as good his sophomore season and fantastic in the Playoffs for us.

But we were never going to bring him back, it was always Bell and hoping someone could grow into the future FS. It is not Dax.

Luckily Dax is finding his nitch at boundary Corner at times, just needs to tackle better.

Stone hasn't been that good with us either, too bad.

(10-04-2024, 02:36 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Trent Brown was balling before his knee injury. You can't predict that. It as a contact injury.

(10-04-2024, 02:37 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Yeah, I'd go back and pull up some of the threads where people were complaining about Bates, but it's not worth the effort and I've never really learned the search function here. 

(10-04-2024, 04:04 PM)J24 Wrote: Well he's balling out in ATL and meanwhile we're getting poor play from our safeties!

So the FO had a terrible plan and were not allowed to call them out on it? Also why were the never going to sign  Bates? The guy was a great player for us on and off the field?

Quote:Some of this has to be on coaching/preparation.

The worst: Jesse Bates is at 29.3 on the year. That's the lowest PFF rating I ever recall seeing! He was looking like a future Pro Bowl player last year.

Williams: 42.7
Webb - 33.2
William Jackson - 43.2
Kirkpatrick - 54.2
Vigil - 42.5
Preston Brown - 52.4

This is bad considering Lou was a Secondary whisperer.
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Quote:According to ProFootballOutsiders the top three players in the league in missed tackles were

Jesse Bates.........24
Nick Vigil............23
Shawn Williams...22

I have a saying.  "When a player stinks look at the player.  When ALL the players stink look at the coaching."  

Tackling is a basic skill that all of these guys learned in college.  I don't know how it could be blamed on the coaches unless these guys were missing tackles because they were out of position and not getting good clean tackle attempts.

(10-04-2024, 05:07 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Just a couple of posts from the past....


Jesse was great when he was on, but it's not like he didn't have struggles as well.

(10-04-2024, 06:22 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Anybody got any news about a non-Falcon..IDK maybe someone like Battle?

(10-02-2024, 03:43 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Pretty sure Geno Stone was covering Kelce a good amount and pretty much shut him down along with Hilton, Logan, Pratt and ADG.

I have seen Vonn Bell get beat the most this season in coverage.

(10-04-2024, 07:19 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: I think that says more about Kelce than it does our players. Kelce hasn’t looked himself all season. Age is getting to him

(10-04-2024, 06:43 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Nope.

(10-04-2024, 06:11 PM)sandwedge Wrote: I fI remember correctly, didn't he have a terrible season after the SB year and then decided to play good in playoffs?
I liked Bates as much as the next fan, liked it when we drafted him, but I wouldn't have overpaid him to stay here.

(10-06-2024, 06:38 PM)Destro Wrote: I know guys have ways of seeing, but did Battle get any plans in? With the injury to Dax, thought a little more playing time. is he just that bad that he cant get on the field?

(10-06-2024, 06:38 PM)Destro Wrote: I know guys have ways of seeing, but did Battle get any plans in? With the injury to Dax, thought a little more playing time. is he just that bad that he cant get on the field?

(10-06-2024, 06:38 PM)Destro Wrote: I know guys have ways of seeing, but did Battle get any plans in? With the injury to Dax, thought a little more playing time. is he just that bad that he cant get on the field?

(10-06-2024, 06:42 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: Battle went in one play, ****** up, and got pulled