(10-30-2024, 10:37 AM)PhilHos Wrote: Marvin Lewis has a winning record as a head coach of the Bengals. And yet, most of us wanted him replaced a couple-to-a-few years before he finally was. Why? Because he couldn't win in the playoffs. And now you have people wishing his replacement to be replaced. Why? Because after 3 straight winning seasons and a playoff record of 5-2, he's started off 3-5? I am EXTREMELY glad that none of us are in charge of this football team.

(10-30-2024, 01:02 PM)Wyche Wrote: I see some truth here for sure.....and also from an article on Cincy Jungle saying Joe needs to do a better job of being a leader. Boy ....talk about folks not liking something.

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2024/10/30/24281976/cincinnati-bengals-9-bigger-problems-than-play-calling-zac-taylor-joe-burrow

"Lack of Leadership on the Field

Honestly, I’m talking to you, Joe Burrow. You can spin it, but if you can’t light a fire under the other 52 guys out there, it doesn’t matter. You need to be a vocal leader on the field and hold your teammates accountable. You are the guy they will follow. Step up and be the leader they need."

For me....the real problem is still the front office and lack of scouting.

(10-29-2024, 10:50 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: As constructed, we'll catch lightning in a bottle every 3-4 years and make the playoffs...then go back to mediocrity. 

The thing is, we haven't bottomed out yet. Lose Tee, Trey, and/or Chase and we will.

(10-30-2024, 01:05 PM)Southpaw Frerotte Wrote: Agreed.  Burrow really should have taken some accountability at this point and line up at MIKE to lead this defense by example.  

(10-30-2024, 03:42 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Every single team on that list except the three in bold would trade their QB’s for Joe Burrow in a heartbeat. And in Baltimore’s case John Harbaugh has already won a Super Bowl. Probably would have more than one by now if his MVP QB didn’t turn into Andy Dalton every January.

The Bills have underachieved in the playoffs, and I’m sure deep down many of their fans have to wonder if McDermott is really the guy to win it all for them. Especially after 13 seconds.

At the end of the day Zac Taylor sucked into landing both Burrow and Chase, and then proceeded to ride the two of them, an opportunistic defense, and a kicker who went 19/19 in the playoffs to a Super Bowl. Cool. It was super fun. But that was 3 seasons ago now which in NFL years is an eternity. The fact is he’s a sub 500 coach who never has his team ready to start the season, and is about to miss the playoffs for a 2nd straight year (despite having a 4th place schedule). Probably looking at another last place finish too now that Cleveland isn’t hampered with Watson anymore.

(10-30-2024, 01:07 PM)Wyche Wrote: I had this exact conversation on a Facebook group yesterday about lightning in a bottle. It's the Brown family way. After listening to Big Whits interview, Katie and Troy may actually be worse than the old man.

(10-30-2024, 04:41 AM)Housh Wrote: The big tell to me is if they let Tee walk


ATP Chase, Burrow, and Tee are the offense. You told us not to worry about Tee cause we needed to spend the money elsewhere but we had 2 all pro level guys in house and didn’t even sign them



I’m pretty sure we closed our own SB window by being cheap


And when we let Tee walk for free i honestly don’t think we have a roster anyone would want to come to without Burrow Chase and Tee. Those are your centerpieces.

Also if Tee leaves then we’ll all be crying for a WR cause Chase is just gonna get triple teammed every play

So we may be in crazy spot where we gotta sign Tee just to keep Chase too cause if I’m Chase I’m not resigning with this dumbass team just to get triple teammed. I’ll go to Baltimore for 25M per and win a SB

(10-30-2024, 10:13 AM)ERIC1 Wrote: just stop man..this team has been to a Superbowl, conference championships game etc two out of the past three years ..Burrow was tired and pissed off after that loss like any other player would be..you are fabricating thoughts in your own head about everyone and everything due to your own disappointment this year. and are painfully incorrect about most of the things you have said.....and by the way  there are dozens of cities that would love an NFL Franchise regardless of the ownership

(10-30-2024, 01:13 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: the people here need to check out that interview. Specifically that part

Is there a chance whit is being a bit hyperbolic? maybe. Not ruling that out. But getting Mike to agree to an extension, only to have his daughter and son in law tell whit essentially... "mike wants to extend you. we dont. we dont want any part of this" is NOT a good look for the future of this franchise. 

and the blackburns are gonna have full control once mike passes

(10-30-2024, 10:17 AM)ochocincos Wrote: This is what stuck out to me.

Bengals technically should be able to afford a couple more losses before being "out of it," but what's the likelihood of going 7-2 after seeing the product on the field in the first 8 games?

It's possible they turn things around, but I think as each week goes by, more and more fans are getting into this "Time for next year" mindset.

Fielding a great team through FA is going to get even harder from here on out, especially if they sign Chase to a mega deal.
Improving the scouting department and coaching staff to better identify players and coach them up will be critical in the coming few years to get back into the contender category.

(10-30-2024, 01:14 PM)Wyche Wrote: Absolutely man....I had not seen it until this week. It has changed my whole outlook and perspective.

(10-30-2024, 01:00 PM)Southpaw Frerotte Wrote: I'm old enough to remember when the entire core was going to take below market contracts in order to stick together lol.  

It's not exactly breaking news that the Browns are cheap.  The true irony in it though is, instead of just paying the piper at the first chance, they continue to kick the can down the road and between draft capital and below level replacements, end up paying more in the end then they would have originally.  This already has applied to Jesse Bates and DJ Reader and will happen again with Higgins and Chase.  Truly mind-boggling level of ineptitude from this front office.

(10-30-2024, 01:17 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: same

(10-30-2024, 01:26 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Pointing to anything other than the terrible defense, non-existent running game, head scratching coaching decisions, and a kicker with the yips, is…an interesting take. To say the least.

Burrow is 3rd in TD’s, 6th in yards, 4th in completion %, 1st in QBR, 5th in passer rating

What are we even doing here?

(10-30-2024, 01:27 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: Trying to get some of you to understand it is the front office?

(10-30-2024, 03:42 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Every single team on that list except the three in bold would trade their QB’s for Joe Burrow in a heartbeat. And in Baltimore’s case John Harbaugh has already won a Super Bowl. Probably would have more than one by now if his MVP QB didn’t turn into Andy Dalton every January.

The Bills have underachieved in the playoffs, and I’m sure deep down many of their fans have to wonder if McDermott is really the guy to win it all for them. Especially after 13 seconds.

At the end of the day Zac Taylor sucked into landing both Burrow and Chase, and then proceeded to ride the two of them, an opportunistic defense, and a kicker who went 19/19 in the playoffs to a Super Bowl. Cool. It was super fun. But that was 3 seasons ago now which in NFL years is an eternity. The fact is he’s a sub 500 coach who never has his team ready to start the season, and is about to miss the playoffs for a 2nd straight year (despite having a 4th place schedule). Probably looking at another last place finish too now that Cleveland isn’t hampered with Watson anymore.

(10-30-2024, 01:30 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: It all stats at the top. That is for sure.