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RE: A Hidden Positive with Higgins Out - J24 - 11-10-2024 (11-10-2024, 12:08 PM)samhain Wrote: You just answered your own question, Nate. You say that it was understood that he wasn't going to be paid by the organization. Why is that acceptable? I get that the team more or less sold that narrative to the fans for a few years. Why? Perfect, response! RE: A Hidden Positive with Higgins Out - samhain - 11-10-2024 (11-10-2024, 03:49 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: We’ve been over this before but Chase has had enough games now where he produced without Tee that you can’t really call it an outlier. Yeah, the dream of keeping the band together at a discount ended in the summer of 2023. It was never realistic. When people were talking about having 9, 1, and 5 in Cincinnati on long-term extensions, things were a lot more stable on defense. We didn't know what we know now about the subpar drafting on defense in early rounds. I feel like a lot of the hope for keeping those 3 in stripes was based on maintaining at the very least a mediocre rest of the roster. We no longer have that luxury. The deficiencies have been revealed. Also, Tee's health is now much more of a trend than a fluke. He's a great option when he's out there, but he's barely out there half the time at this point. The offense, however continues to function at a high level. This isn't a crap on Tee thread. It's more of a sigh of relief that this offense isn't going to wither on the vine when it no longer has Tee. Another point, when he actually leaves, the team is highly likely to replace him with something of significance. Might be a draft pick, could be a free agent. They might not be on Tee's level, but I don't think getting a guy that's better than Iosivas and sees the field more than Tee is that tough of an ask for this team. He's not likely to leave without some kind of replacement. RE: A Hidden Positive with Higgins Out - J24 - 11-10-2024 (11-10-2024, 03:49 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: We’ve been over this before but Chase has had enough games now where he produced without Tee that you can’t really call it an outlier.The difference in the past is that we had a reliable WR in Boyd and a reliable RB in Mixon. Now we have Burton, Isovais, and Brown. Don't get me wrong, I do not think we need to sign Tee back, but we do need a reliable #2 WR. Or we need to improve the IOL to significantly improve the running game. RE: A Hidden Positive with Higgins Out - Nicomo Cosca - 11-10-2024 (11-10-2024, 11:01 AM)Sled21 Wrote: What he said is 100% correct. Joe often holds the ball too long in an effort to extend plays and doesn't care if he gets hit unless it's 3rd down and a sac takes us out of FG range. He said it himself. Again, 40 pressures and 13 QB hits in a single game is ridiculous, and NOT because Joe was holding onto the ball. It was a combination of putrid OL play, and play calling that hung him out to dry. They only ran it 13 times FFS despite having a lead most of the game. Maybe you know…actually change things up when you see your star QB being treated like a piñata. Just a thought. (11-10-2024, 02:00 PM)J24 Wrote: The difference in the past is that we had a reliable WR in Boyd and a reliable RB in Mixon. Now we have Burton, Isovais, and Brown. Agree with all that. I would probably start with re-signing Gesicki to have a decent #3 pass catcher, and then draft Tee’s replacement early. 3T and WR are probably going to be their biggest needs going into the offseason. And yes there’s a lot more unfortunately. RE: A Hidden Positive with Higgins Out - samhain - 11-10-2024 (11-10-2024, 02:18 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Again, 40 pressures and 13 QB hits in a single game is ridiculous, and NOT because Joe was holding onto the ball. It was a combination of putrid OL play, and play calling that hung him out to dry. They only ran it 13 times FFS despite having a lead most of the game. Maybe you know actually change things up when you see your star QB being treated like a piñata. Idk just a thought. Agree on Gesicki. He's an effective replacement for a slot receiver. On the other hand, slot receivers aren't exactly breaking the bank these days. Would it be that tough to bring in a Tyler Boyd type FA? I suppose it depends on the availability and market. RE: A Hidden Positive with Higgins Out - SunsetBengal - 11-10-2024 (11-09-2024, 12:27 PM)samhain Wrote: There's no way to argue that this season hasn't sucked. I agree that continuing to have Tee Higgins on the team is more of a luxury than a necessity. They do, however need a strong and reliable WR2, and I don't think that he's currently on the roster. Sure, Gesicki fills a great role as a pass catching TE, the the team still needs a solid WR2. Iosivas is a physically talented player, but he's obviously not ready to be placed in a full time starting role. Burton may have monstrous physical talent, but for whatever reason, his cornbread ain't quite done in the middle. Letting Tee go to save salary is completely acceptable, but they still have to fill that role with at least a decent player. I don't think that you can count on the draft, as there are other spots that could benefit the team in a greater capacity with a 1-2 round pick. That leaves free agency. With the way CFB has been pumping good WRs into the league for the past decade and a half, there should be someone suitable on the market this offseason at a reasonable rate. RE: A Hidden Positive with Higgins Out - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 11-10-2024 (11-10-2024, 12:08 PM)samhain Wrote: You just answered your own question, Nate. You say that it was understood that he wasn't going to be paid by the organization. Why is that acceptable? I get that the team more or less sold that narrative to the fans for a few years. Why? Very rational post Sam. But we also have to remember that Bates wasn't near as good here as he has been in Atlanta and that during the franchise Tag he was a very poor tackler and showed poor effort. He did play great in the Playoffs leading up to our Super Bowl appearance but there were times for us when he wasn't near as good as he has been in Atlanta. For this reason, I don't cry over that spilt milk and focus on solutions. CTB very well could be that solution, move him to Free Safety and start Jordan Battle at Strong. RE: A Hidden Positive with Higgins Out - Nicomo Cosca - 11-10-2024 (11-10-2024, 04:19 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I don't think that you can count on the draft, as there are other spots that could benefit the team in a greater capacity with a 1-2 round pick. That leaves free agency. With the way CFB has been pumping good WRs into the league for the past decade and a half, there should be someone suitable on the market this offseason at a reasonable rate. The problem with that is I think most of us trust them way more with a 1st/2nd round pick at WR than some of the other big needs like DT and OG. Duke’s track record at drafting trenches early is horrendous. John Ross and Jerome Simpson are really the only misses he’s had at WR in the first couple rounds. |