(12-10-2024, 04:19 PM)Whatever Wrote: McKinnley Jackson is such trash.  Huge reach because of need.

(12-10-2024, 03:40 PM)Joelist Wrote: The Geno Stone score jump was interesting also as they changed how they were using him. Lou let him attack a lot more and not sit back so much; could be that is how he plays best.

(12-11-2024, 10:54 AM)Whatever Wrote: Well, they decided not to resign or replace Reader, then drafted for need in a bad NT class.  Like you said, NT has a long development curve.  Jackson was never going to come in and fill that immediate need, so reaching for him was pretty bad.  We obviously needed help all over.

We'll see how he develops, but his current level of play doesn't inspire much confidence that he will be more than another Zach Carter.  

(12-11-2024, 12:56 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: He has the best pressure rate of any of iur interior lineman outside of Hill. Low bar, but a fact. 

(12-11-2024, 01:25 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: when a DJ Ivey gives you hope you know how bad the defense actually is

(12-11-2024, 01:26 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: hes far from trash..he's a rookie and one with great potential..when the defensive line lacks robustness in the middle the entire line looks bad

(12-11-2024, 03:33 PM)Whatever Wrote: He was the 150th ranked prospect on the Consensus Big Board.  He could and should improve, but "great potential" is a big stretch.

When he's in the game, he's literally half of the interior defensive line.  He's a big part of that "lack of robustness".

(12-11-2024, 03:58 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: How many great nfl players werr drafed inlater round and were not rated high on any concencus board...tons...hes a solid rookie with potential to improve..the least of the bengals worries

(12-11-2024, 07:36 PM)Whatever Wrote: Ah. .the Tom Brady fallacy again.

Jackson has a 35.3 PFF grade for the year, which has to be one of, if not the worst, on a bad team.  He is miles from solid.  Jenkins is solid.  Jackson sucks.  

I just hope they don't pass on a top NT prospect in next year's strong DT class because they reached for Jackson.  I hope he develops into a good player, but he's shown nothing to give any hope of that.  

(12-11-2024, 07:43 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: He'll find his groove. 7 tackles in 153 snaps at NT isn't horrible, no matter what PFF says.

(12-11-2024, 08:00 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Zach Carter will find his groove too

(12-11-2024, 02:16 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Rankins was supposed to be the Reader coverage, remember?

All joking aside, the Bengals likely were not planning for Jackson to play much at all this season.
It was going to be Hill and Rankins as the starters with Jenkins and Tufele getting into the rotation.
Carter as well until they decided to cut him for such poor performance into his 3rd season.

It also did not help that Jackson missed pretty much all of TC and preseason due to an injury and didn't get cleared to practice until beginning of Oct and didn't play until Oct 6 vs Ravens. He's behind the curve on growth, plus he's a 3rd round comp pick.
Some people have way too unrealistic expectations for these mid-round picks to contribute so much so early.

The real crime was the Bengals thinking A) Rankins was a sufficient replacement for Reader, and B) having to rely so much on inexperienced/unproven depth.

(12-11-2024, 03:33 PM)Whatever Wrote: He was the 150th ranked prospect on the Consensus Big Board.  He could and should improve, but "great potential" is a big stretch.

When he's in the game, he's literally half of the interior defensive line.  He's a big part of that "lack of robustness".

(12-11-2024, 02:28 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Which is pretty surprising to me as I thought of him as more of a 1 trick pony run stopping Nose Tackle. But McKinnley Jackson has 
some athleticism and twitch I didn't expect. He is far from trash and even DJ Reader was bad as a rookie. People can hate on taking a
NT that early in the Draft, but where we took him was exactly where I thought McKinnley would go, in the 3rd.

(12-11-2024, 02:28 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Which is pretty surprising to me as I thought of him as more of a 1 trick pony run stopping Nose Tackle. But McKinnley Jackson has 
some athleticism and twitch I didn't expect. He is far from trash and even DJ Reader was bad as a rookie. People can hate on taking a
NT that early in the Draft, but where we took him was exactly where I thought McKinnley would go, in the 3rd.

Still believe whoever took T'Vondre Sweat was the team that reached for a NT in that draft. He is a lazy POS with off field problems.


It has been bad that is for sure, especially CTB who really let us all down this season. Thought he would of went the opposite way 
with his athleticism. Instead, he got beat like a drum all year long. I initially wanted a TE in that draft instead of another Corner but 
since we picked him DJ Ivey has been a good player when healthy.

(12-12-2024, 02:12 AM)BoomerFan Wrote: Volson best past blocker and Cappa best run blocker, just like we all predicted. But the truth is, Dallas wasn't any sort of test, especially for the interior OLine.

(12-11-2024, 08:09 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Zach Carter had a few seasons with which to improve his game, McKinnley Jackson is still a rookie.

However, bringing up Carter's fate does speak toward the idea that Marion Hobby cannot develop the players he's been given to work with.

(12-11-2024, 11:11 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Who's big board?

(12-12-2024, 10:55 AM)Whatever Wrote: NFL Mock Draft Database has the Consensus Big Board, which is the average ranking of players from dozens of major draft sites.  

I think the moral of the story is don't reach for guys in the 3rd round because of need.  They are rarely going to be able to come in and adequately fill it.  

(12-12-2024, 11:15 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Speaking of MDD, how does one access the scouting report and info panel on prospects on their simulator?