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RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - StoneTheCrow - 04-04-2025
(04-03-2025, 03:57 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Did you read her actual quotes in the article that I added to post #2? She doesn't say anything off-putting.
I’m not the biggest fan of her or that family to put it mildly but with this and in her recent Trey Hendrickson negotiation comments I didn’t see much to hyperventilate over.
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - ERIC1 - 04-04-2025
(Yesterday, 10:28 AM)ochocincos Wrote: My comment wasn't in reference to this topic specifically, but in every communication she ever seems to do.the public back and forth here in Cincinnati..between the powers that be of Hamilton county/city and the Bengals is barely a blip on the radar compared to other cities.. Katie did not say anything out of place and she is one of the owners of her company..not management..I think the team has brought this city alot of enjoyment..I think the teams demands and the renovations were very reasonable..and pretty cool.. and I think a deal will get done..
She didn't need to add in the comment that they could go wherever they wanted. While technically true, it feels like a slap in the face to a city that financially supported the organization for over 50 years.
And then you add on the comments KB seems to make about the situation with Hendrickson where she mentions she feels he needs to be happy with how much he's making. She just has the same communication style that doesn't seem to factor in the emotional response from the players/city/fans.
I bring it up because at my company, I am one of those in leadership, and our culture is one promoting emotional intelligence and empathy toward our users, stakeholders, and staff. If any of us were to talk publicly like KB does, we would likely be reprimanded by upper leadership.
I get though that some people don't care HOW someone communicates, and even admires how some can be incredibly direct and "**** people's reactions" to what is said.
That's just not the communication style I care for, same with many others.
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - ERIC1 - 04-04-2025
(04-03-2025, 07:38 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I used to think that there's no way any city would accept the Bengals because of Mike Brown and the way he operated things, but now, with Burrow, Chase, and Higgins, it does worry me a little that maybe Katie could move the team.
I hope the city sees how much money they'd lose by letting the team move and does what it takes to keep the team here, so let's just hope that Katie's smart, loyal, and reasonable.
I'd literally be destroyed if the team left.
putting aside the legal encumbrances and costs of moving a team..most cities would jump at the chance of getting an NFL team ..Even if Akili Smith was quarterback and John Ross was a number 1 receiver
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - ERIC1 - 04-04-2025
(Yesterday, 04:44 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: That does make me feel a little bit better because at least we'd have at least two Super Bowls by then.
It just flipped me out because, when Mike was running things, I knew there's no chance because no city would put up with an organization the run the way he did, but now that we're a respectable contender that runs like we have half a brain, it seems like other cities would love to have us.
B Fritz ..team is not moving..don't worry
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - ERIC1 - 04-04-2025
I was really impressed with the renovation plans of Paycor and the responsible costs..The Bengals..compared to other cities were not asking for too much......Really cool stuff..But here we are in 2025 and the internet is ablaze with pretty much a nothing story..The team is not going anywhere and the city I feel certain wants the team to stay..
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - ERIC1 - 04-04-2025
(04-03-2025, 01:15 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I did not see where Katie said anything out of line. It is business, it appears they are appoachng a deadline for a lese to be extended. The time to negotiate is now, once Bengals agree to 2 more years, the window closes so yes Katie should explain all options are on the table. But, she also said the team loves it here and likes the location being downtown.
1000%
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - ERIC1 - 04-04-2025
(04-03-2025, 03:11 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Bengals are stuck.
They have done zero due dilligence with even remotely thinking about moving the team. No city, plot, plan whatsoever. Plus the 500-600 million dollar relocation fee. There is just no chance.
The city has them by the balls.
the city does not have the Bengals by the testicles..it would be a lengthy and convoluted matter if the Bengals were to move..but it would happen if they wanted it to ..and in moving the Bengals would probably be welcome with open arms and be provided a tremendous sports complex with maybe even a 3 billion dollar domed stadium.. And the value of the franchise would increase significantly..I think the Brown family loves this town and wants to stay and this was a big nothing burger..We will be fine..we will have a neatly renovated Paycor ( loved the cool things they proposed..plus a new indoor training facility)..for many years to come...Sometimes you have to apply a little pressure
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - Frank Booth - 04-04-2025
(Yesterday, 10:55 AM)ERIC1 Wrote: the city does not have the Bengals by the testicles..it would be a lengthy and convoluted matter if the Bengals were to move..but it would happen if they wanted it to ..and in moving the Bengals would probably be welcome with open arms and be provided a tremendous sports complex with maybe even a 3 billion dollar domed stadium.. And the value of the franchise would increase significantly..I think the Brown family loves this town and wants to stay and this was a big nothing burger..We will be fine..we will have a neatly renovated Paycor ( loved the cool things they proposed..plus a new indoor training facility)..for many years to come...Sometimes you have to apply a little pressure
I admire your love for Mike Brown and his family
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - Tomcat - 04-04-2025
(Yesterday, 09:08 AM)ochocincos Wrote: It doesn't "hurt my feelings." What she says or does doesn't affect me, personally.
She just doesn't seem to care about anything.
She operates like a robot.
Leaders are expected to show some empathy toward others.
I don't see empathy in the way she communicates.
The only difference between her and Mikey is the Mammary Glands on her chest and her Baby canal, besides that they're the same person business wise!
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - ERIC1 - 04-04-2025
(Yesterday, 11:12 AM)Frank Booth Wrote: I admire your love for Mike Brown and his family
frank..I dont have a love for the brown family..But he gave us a football team..he stayed when he could have made more money by going to Baltimore..If you have issues with wealthy people making money that's a different topic and I wish that I could help you get past that..Have a great day..for the most part I always like and respect your posts
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - J24 - 04-04-2025
(Yesterday, 09:36 AM)Sled21 Wrote: You all are kidding yourselves. There are football starved cities that would get into an absolute bidding war to have the Bengals move three. They'd build a stadium and pay the relocation fee for them just to have them. I would think this would make many of you who always say you wish they would move so you could quit supporting them very happy.
Where?
Toronto- Thier not building a stadium with public money & plus the Tax situation is outrageous there!
St.louis- They've been screwed twice by teams moving. Doubt, they would want to invest serious public money into a new stadium.
London- long shot because of Taxes.
Austin/San Antonio- Have to deal with Jerry Jones loophole.
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - XenoMorph - 04-04-2025
(Yesterday, 12:27 PM)J24 Wrote: Where?
Toronto- Thier not building a stadium with public money & plus the Tax situation is outrageous there!
St.louis- They've been screwed twice by teams moving. Doubt, they would want to invest serious public money into a new stadium.
London- long shot because of Taxes.
Austin/San Antonio- Have to deal with Jerry Jones loophole.
Columbus maybe? definitely a football town
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - 3wt - 04-04-2025
(04-03-2025, 01:15 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I did not see where Katie said anything out of line. It is business, it appears they are appoachng a deadline for a lese to be extended. The time to negotiate is now, once Bengals agree to 2 more years, the window closes so yes Katie should explain all options are on the table. But, she also said the team loves it here and likes the location being downtown.
I agree. Given what other cities are doing for their NFL teams her expectations don't sound unreasonable. An NFL team brings so much value and cash to the city and the county.
It sounds like the commissioners are using the situation for political currency.
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - XsandOs - 04-04-2025
Getting 75% of the owners to approve a move is a challenge and would take about two years to complete a move - if the other city is prepared to host the Team. Realistically, at least three years from start to finish.
The article listed 5 Teams:
San Diego: Brown should consult Spanos about dealing with that city ...
Orlando: Really? 4 Teams in Florida? In a city built around tourism? Maybe Browns can play in Cinderella's castle themed stadium, to compete with the theme parks for attracting 3-12 year olds and their parents.
San Antonio: Jerry Jones would make sure Brown doesn't get 24 votes.
Oklahoma City: Maybe Browns can get casino money from Cherokee, Choctaw and Chickasaw Nations - then lose the Team in a game of Poker.
And lastly Salt Lake. That is salty. Moving from a City ranked 28th in GDP and a State ranked 7th to Utah? The entire State's GDP is not much more than Cincinnati's alone.
I don't believe they want to move. Bengals have a good thing going in Cincy, and they know it.
My thoughts are that if the Browns want the ROI on their recent investments in Burrow, Chase and Tee - they need to show that ROI on the field first. Then the City reciprocate.
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - Sled21 - 04-04-2025
(Yesterday, 12:27 PM)J24 Wrote: Where?
Toronto- Thier not building a stadium with public money & plus the Tax situation is outrageous there!
St.louis- They've been screwed twice by teams moving. Doubt, they would want to invest serious public money into a new stadium.
London- long shot because of Taxes.
Austin/San Antonio- Have to deal with Jerry Jones loophole.
Austin, Tx
Outside of those 8, I would also add the Louisville/Lexington area, which would draw from both cities.
Riverside, California
Orlando, FL wants an expansion team
San Diego
Sacramento
Salt Lake City
Virginia Beach
Chicago (wants an AFC team in addition to the Bears)
Columbus, Oh
Oklahoma City
Portland, Oregon
San Antonio, TX
St. Louis
Add to those, Montreal, London, etc.
There is a laundry list of cities that would be smacking at the lips to have the Bengals.
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - Sled21 - 04-04-2025
(Yesterday, 12:27 PM)J24 Wrote: Where?
Toronto- Thier not building a stadium with public money & plus the Tax situation is outrageous there!
St.louis- They've been screwed twice by teams moving. Doubt, they would want to invest serious public money into a new stadium.
London- long shot because of Taxes.
Austin/San Antonio- Have to deal with Jerry Jones loophole.
They offered 1 billion to build a new stadium to keep their team.
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - XsandOs - 04-04-2025
(Yesterday, 12:56 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Austin, TxI think the only city that would make sense is Columbus. However; the caveat being that if Ohio is unwilling to contribute to the renovations in Cincy, what will they contribute to a stadium in Columbus. And, is there a conflict with OSU?
Outside of those 8, I would also add the Louisville/Lexington area, which would draw from both cities.
Riverside, California
Orlando, FL wants an expansion team
San Diego
Sacramento
Salt Lake City
Virginia Beach
Chicago (wants an AFC team in addition to the Bears)
Columbus, Oh
Oklahoma City
Portland, Oregon
San Antonio, TX
St. Louis
Add to those, Montreal, London, etc.
There is a laundry list of cities that would be smacking at the lips to have the Bengals.
Some of these cities just confuse me. Virginia Beach? Other than Huntington Ingalls, Sentara, Shipping and Military Bases in Norfolk and the Beach area, there is nothing there. As a matter of fact, I was in that area yesterday. By the time the season starts, all vacationers from the Beach and Outer Banks are gone.
Riverside - you are an hour away from Rams and Chargers. Sacramento, you have the Niners 90 minutes away. Both, small cities.
I agree that Kroenke wanted to move to a larger market despite St Louis concessions. But St. Louis is not a better market than Cincy.
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - J24 - 04-04-2025
(Yesterday, 12:36 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Columbus maybe? definitely a football town
They have a team in Ohio State!
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - J24 - 04-04-2025
(Yesterday, 12:56 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Austin, TxAny California team will want Ownership to pay for their own stadium. You can also add any City in Canada and Portland to that list.
Outside of those 8, I would also add the Louisville/Lexington area, which would draw from both cities.
Riverside, California
Orlando, FL wants an expansion team
San Diego
Sacramento
Salt Lake City
Virginia Beach
Chicago (wants an AFC team in addition to the Bears)
Columbus, Oh
Oklahoma City
Portland, Oregon
San Antonio, TX
St. Louis
Add to those, Montreal, London, etc.
There is a laundry list of cities that would be smacking at the lips to have the Bengals.
St. Antino won't get a team because the Jones family won't allow it and the Bucs wouldn't allow a team in Orlando. The rest of the cities you mentioned are minor league cities or college towns that won't get a team.
(Yesterday, 12:58 PM)Sled21 Wrote: They offered 1 billion to build a new stadium to keep their team.They're tired of being screwed by the NFL. They've lost two teams in 40 years to moving. I doubt they would want to invest in a team without a local ownership.
RE: Bengals v. Hamilton County - Square Off - bfine32 - 04-04-2025
(Yesterday, 01:40 PM)XsandOs Wrote: I think the only city that would make sense is Columbus. However; the caveat being that if Ohio is unwilling to contribute to the renovations in Cincy, what will they contribute to a stadium in Columbus. And, is there a conflict with OSU?
Some of these cities just confuse me. Virginia Beach? Other than Huntington Ingalls, Sentara, Shipping and Military Bases in Norfolk and the Beach area, there is nothing there. As a matter of fact, I was in that area yesterday. By the time the season starts, all vacationers from the Beach and Outer Banks are gone.
Riverside - you are an hour away from Rams and Chargers. Sacramento, you have the Niners 90 minutes away. Both, small cities.
I agree that Kroenke wanted to move to a larger market despite St Louis concessions. But St. Louis is not a better market than Cincy.
So it's your assertion that no city currently without a professional Football team does not want one and/or could not support one?