(01-25-2016, 04:29 AM)BoomerFan Wrote: I like Tebow but no man, just...no.

Cam has better accuracy, better QB instincts, and has carried his team occasionally. Tebow...in the NFL the team was pretty much always carrying him. 

(01-25-2016, 04:43 AM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: You're very wrong, actually.

Cam used to be a 1st read QB, but this year has greatly matured. He does go through reads. Not sure why there's an impression of him going through reads. I mean, did you see his throw to Olsen for the 1st down against the Saints?

Defenses realized that they could contain Newton and make him have to throw against them, and often times Newton would have made mistakes. But as time has gone on, his intelligence has gotten much better and he fully reads the entire field.

How were their stats even similar? Kaepernick's stats were 6 TDs to 5 INTs this year. Took Newton four games to have 7 TDs. And 2 INTs. Oh, and 2 rushing TDs. But Kaepernick had 1. Do you see Newton's supporting cast? His best receivers are Ted Ginn Jr and Cotchery. Throw in Olsen of course, but you get the picture.

Newton improved his game and if he was a 1 read QB, teams would have been able to read it and better contain it. Like they have with Kaepernick.

They're not the same player. Just because they're both mobile means nothing. Newton deserved this award. You don't throw 35 TDs to 10 INTs by being a read 1st QB in the NFL. A dual threat doesn't mean he's a 1 read QB.

(01-25-2016, 12:48 AM)Joelist Wrote: It has to do with the lack of any moral center. Remember this is the guy who only avoided prison for felony theft because the court bent over backwards to be nice to his college. Then the NFL has done nothing but plug him nonstop since he came into the league and covered for his boorish behavior,  his temper tantrums and being a horrific role model.

(01-25-2016, 12:00 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Yep, Carolina was able to overcome Cam passing for over 300 yards and rushing for 2 TDs.

I wonder if we could ever overcome such a performance.

(01-25-2016, 02:32 AM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: I live about 45 mins from Charlotte.

Had to watch all of their games.

Again the OC has done a great job in covering this up.  He has different plays available that have different WRs as the 1st read, so it gives the impression that Cam is reading the defense and is spreading the ball around.  There have been numerous times this season where when the prime was covered, Cam tucked and ran (usually for a 1st down, which also covers this aspect, I mean he is getting 1st downs, who cares if the play was supposed to be a pass play, if he still gets the 1st), if the defenders played contain and his prime was covered, he either forced the ball or threw it away.

Nothing wrong with that type of play.  Tebow plays that way as well.  However, Tebow can't get a job as a QB and Cam is MVP.

I remember seeing a meme earlier in the year when Cam was 1st mentioned in the MVP race and they put up his stats next to Colin K. and the stats were identical.  One QB lost his starting job, the other, well he is playing in the SB and is again MVP.

If Cam were playing for the 49ners or for a coach that insist that he change his play to fit the coaches system, then he would be an afterthought.

Give credit to Shula and Rivera for adjusting.

(01-24-2016, 11:09 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: If we have a thread about Carson winning a playoff game before Marvin. How about Cam winning and entering the SB before xxxx.

(01-25-2016, 09:14 AM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: Newton is a game changer. Look at his stats, this dude is no chump. Denver has their hands full. If they can get some pressure on him, that's their only real chance.

I remember the Gruden interview with Cam that made Cam look like an idiot, though.

(01-25-2016, 08:56 AM)BengalYankee Wrote: Was Shula there when Cam won Rookie of the Year????

(01-25-2016, 08:20 AM)BritishBengal Wrote: Even as a Bengals fan, I find this borderline offensive dude. 

The guy has been incredible. He has made the NFL fun this year. He has done it with garbage WR talent, and a smile on his face all year. He gives gameballs to kids, keeps it light with his dancing. A dislike for Cam comes from a weird place. How can you not root for a guy who has spent his career up until this year getting beat up behind a terrible O-Line and not fulfilling his talent. Panthers would have been a lot of people's team to finish bottom of the NFC South coming into the year with their injuries. Yet here they are, in the superbowl, looking awesome.

(01-24-2016, 11:58 PM)Joelist Wrote: AZ turned over six times which was the only reason they lost. |

Scam is an amoral piece of crap who only avoided prison because his college had the court in its pocket, and anyone who roots for him is also an amoral piece of crap.

(01-25-2016, 08:20 AM)BritishBengal Wrote: Even as a Bengals fan, I find this borderline offensive dude. 

The guy has been incredible. He has made the NFL fun this year. He has done it with garbage WR talent, and a smile on his face all year. He gives gameballs to kids, keeps it light with his dancing. A dislike for Cam comes from a weird place. How can you not root for a guy who has spent his career up until this year getting beat up behind a terrible O-Line and not fulfilling his talent. Panthers would have been a lot of people's team to finish bottom of the NFC South coming into the year with their injuries. Yet here they are, in the superbowl, looking awesome.

(01-24-2016, 11:58 PM)Joelist Wrote: AZ turned over six times which was the only reason they lost. |

Scam is an amoral piece of crap who only avoided prison because his college had the court in its pocket, and anyone who roots for him is also an amoral piece of crap.

(01-24-2016, 11:28 PM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote: I personally wanted a Brady v. Newton Superbowl where the Patriots blew out the Panthers. I have a serious disdain for Cam Newton. Also, Brady winning the Superbowl over Cam Newton would be a huge f you to Roger Goodell, which is always a plus!