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RE: Zimmer going after Bengals players ( of course) - bfine32 - 03-08-2016
I have found out that Stats never tell thge story when they differ with one's opinion. I've always found stats to be indicitive of performance.
As to the Nelson/Iloka debate: In the 2015 NFL season Reggie Nelson was a better Safety than George Iloka. You can look at stats, PFF rankings, or any other dynamic besides opinion.
Now ask me which Safety I would place a higher priority on signing and it will be George Iloka; mainly because 2015 is over and Reggie is much older.
RE: Zimmer going after Bengals players ( of course) - Stormborn - 03-08-2016
(03-08-2016, 04:14 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I have found out that Stats never tell thge story when they differ with one's opinion. I've always found Film to be indicitive of performance.
Same.
RE: Zimmer going after Bengals players ( of course) - bfine32 - 03-08-2016
(03-08-2016, 04:15 PM)Stormborn Wrote: Same.
Lots of folks watch film. Some even do it for a living:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/how-we-grade/
RE: Zimmer going after Bengals players ( of course) - RoyleRedlegs - 03-08-2016
The irony right now is thick
RE: Zimmer going after Bengals players ( of course) - Stormborn - 03-08-2016
(03-08-2016, 04:52 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Lots of folks watch film. Some even do it for a living:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/how-we-grade/
Oh snap.
RE: Zimmer going after Bengals players ( of course) - Synric - 03-08-2016
Fact is Ilokas abilty to play center field allows Nelson to roam and play closer to the line. They really compliment each other.
That being said I think it's harder to find a 6'4 225lb center field safety that can flip his hips and run with anyone.
RE: Zimmer going after Bengals players ( of course) - SunsetBengal - 03-08-2016
Looks like the Vikings are indeed getting ready to make some noise. I read earlier that they dumped Mike Wallace, freeing up another 11.4M..
RE: Zimmer going after Bengals players ( of course) - bonesaw - 03-08-2016
RE: Zimmer going after Bengals players ( of course) - RoyleRedlegs - 03-08-2016
(03-08-2016, 08:59 PM)Synric Wrote: Fact is Ilokas abilty to play center field allows Nelson to roam and play closer to the line. They really compliment each other.
That being said I think it's harder to find a 6'4 225lb center field safety that can flip his hips and run with anyone.
But stats!
RE: Zimmer going after Bengals players ( of course) - bfine32 - 03-08-2016
(03-08-2016, 09:38 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: But stats!
I suppose there is nothing wrong with being childish if you want, but stats were just one qualifier used to support the position of Nelson being a better Safety than Iloka last year,
Ratings from a professional film review/assessment source and All-Pro/ Pro-Bowl votes/nominations were a couple others. While the only thing used to support the position that Iloka was a better Safety was 'I watched film" and childish replies.
RE: Zimmer going after Bengals players ( of course) - RoyleRedlegs - 03-08-2016
(03-08-2016, 10:13 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I suppose there is nothing wrong with being childish if you want, but stats were just one qualifier used to support the position of Nelson being a better Safety than Iloka last year,
Ratings from a professional film review/assessment source and All-Pro/ Pro-Bowl votes/nominations were a couple others. While the only thing used to support the position that Iloka was a better Safety was 'I watched film" and childish replies.
But this snark laden post isn't childish?
Or are you above all that?
RE: Zimmer going after Bengals players ( of course) - Hammerstripes - 03-08-2016
(03-08-2016, 04:52 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Lots of folks watch film. Some even do it for a living:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/how-we-grade/
Except they have no idea what a player's assignment is on each play. Kinda hard to grade players if you don't know that.
RE: Zimmer going after Bengals players ( of course) - bfine32 - 03-09-2016
(03-08-2016, 11:13 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: Except they have no idea what a player's assignment is on each play. Kinda hard to grade players if you don't know that.
I'd imagine they would, at a minimum, have a better idea than a fan watching on TV. But if we can't use film and a professional analysis of it we will just have to go with stats and Pro Bowl/All Pro voting.