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RE: It appears…. - fredtoast - 03-17-2016
(03-15-2016, 12:02 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Talent at WR can be found in every round of the draft
Not very easily.
Over the last 5 years 80 different NFL WRs have combined to post one hundred seventy-three 800-yard seasons. 125 of those 173 800-yard seasons (almost 75%) were by WRs drafted in the first three rounds. Once you get past the third round there is only a very small chance that you find even a decent WR.
RE: It appears…. - Beaker - 03-17-2016
(03-17-2016, 12:17 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Once you get past the third round there is only a very small chance that you find even a decent WR.
Marvin Jones - Rd 5
TJ Housmanzedah - Rd 7
Andrew Hawkins - UDFA
RE: It appears…. - Nately120 - 03-17-2016
(03-17-2016, 12:26 AM)Beaker Wrote: Marvin Jones - Rd 5
TJ Housmanzedah - Rd 7
Andrew Hawkins - UDFA
Who are "three wide receivers the Cincinnati Bengals let walk" Alex.
RE: It appears…. - fredtoast - 03-17-2016
(03-17-2016, 12:26 AM)Beaker Wrote: Marvin Jones - Rd 5
TJ Housmanzedah - Rd 7
Andrew Hawkins - UDFA
Gee, I wonder why the Patriots took Garappolo in the second round and Mallet in the third when they could just get another Tom Brady in the 6th?
Silly Patriots.
RE: It appears…. - Bengalbug - 03-17-2016
(03-17-2016, 12:26 AM)Beaker Wrote: Marvin Jones - Rd 5
TJ Housmanzedah - Rd 7
Andrew Hawkins - UDFA
Since TJ came in in 2001, here are receivers drafted be bengals, after the third round, up until last two years (too early to tell but likely going to make the percentage even smaller)
Basically 11 WR drafted (Hawkins wasn't but including for argument sake) you have 3 out of 11 who are decent for 27% rate. If you take Hawkins out and use only drafted players you are at 20%. That is probably a similar number across the league.
Maurice Mann
Tab perry
Ethan Kilmer
Bennie brazell
Mario Ureuttia
Freddie brown
Ryan Whalen
Cobi Hamilton
RE: It appears…. - XenoMorph - 03-17-2016
(03-12-2016, 04:29 PM)yellowxdiscipline Wrote: ...as if we blew our free agency wads.
Theres still a few guys who can help the huge question mark we have at wide receiver. I hope they aren't content with a draft pick or dare I say Brandon Tate filling the void that Jones and Sanu left.
its not over yet and we have visits...
Remember the Bengals are one of the Best in the league at budgeting too some of the asking prices might be too high atm. but will start to lower.
They might be working on a trade as well.
RE: It appears…. - ochocincos - 03-17-2016
(03-17-2016, 12:26 AM)Beaker Wrote: Marvin Jones - Rd 5
TJ Housmanzedah - Rd 7
Andrew Hawkins - UDFA
Which is three WRs taken fourth round or later in the past 15 years out of:
Mario Alford
James Wright
Cobi Hamilton
Marvin Jones
Ryan Whalen
Dezmon Briscoe
Freddie Brown
Mario Urrutia
Bennie Brazell
Reggie McNeal
Tab Perry
Maurice Mann
TJ Houshmandzadeh
That's only 16.67% success rate at finding a quality WR late in the draft and not even including the UDFA WRs that have been brought in. If we include that, the percentage would be much lower.
Meanwhile, the Bengals have selected the following WRs in the first three rounds in the past 15 years (quality WRs in bold):
Chad Johnson
Kelley Washington
*Chris Henry
Jerome Simpson
Andre Caldwell
Jordan Shipley
AJ Green
Mohamed Sanu
That's a 50% success rate of the Bengals landing a quality WR within the first three rounds. Above 50% if you consider Henry as a successful WR in his limited years and playing third WR behind Chad and Housh. Something of note: all of the non-quality WRs in the above list of rounds 1-3 since 2001 have been selected in the third round.
So Fred's point still stands that it's MUCH harder to find a good WR after the third round compared to within the first three rounds.
RE: It appears…. - Bengalbug - 03-17-2016
(03-17-2016, 10:55 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Which is three WRs taken fourth round or later in the past 15 years out of:
Mario Alford
James Wright
Cobi Hamilton
Marvin Jones
Ryan Whalen
Dezmon Briscoe
Freddie Brown
Mario Urrutia
Bennie Brazell
Reggie McNeal
Tab Perry
Maurice Mann
TJ Houshmandzadeh
That's only 16.67% success rate at finding a quality WR late in the draft and not even including the UDFA WRs that have been brought in. If we include that, the percentage would be much lower.
Meanwhile, the Bengals have selected the following WRs in the first three rounds in the past 15 years (quality WRs in bold):
Chad Johnson
Kelley Washington
*Chris Henry
Jerome Simpson
Andre Caldwell
Jordan Shipley
AJ Green
Mohamed Sanu
That's a 50% success rate of the Bengals landing a quality WR within the first three rounds. Above 50% if you consider Henry as a successful WR in his limited years and playing third WR behind Chad and Housh. Something of note: all of the non-quality WRs in the above list of rounds 1-3 since 2001 have been selected in the third round.
So Fred's point still stands that it's MUCH harder to find a good WR after the third round compared to within the first three rounds.
Caldwell is still in the league... But I don't know if that count as quality
But shiply would have been if not for injuries. He caught over 50 balls his rookie year
RE: It appears…. - Essex Johnson - 03-17-2016
(03-12-2016, 08:16 PM)yellowxdiscipline Wrote: Burkhead is the only one i would consider for the slot. Alford is an unknown, Tate is well Tate, and Wright is coming off micro fracture surgery. Kumerow and Bennett are camp PS players at best.
A first round pick would be the only solution. If we aren't signing anyone from outside.
I predict Eiffert plays more in the two point stance than a 3 point stance this year.. that is a big answer to the lack of depth