(08-19-2022, 04:45 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: He’ll be back next week. I expect he’ll play bd the Rams. They are gearing up the matchup vs the Rams to be the one’s only real test of preseason. There won’t be tackling to the ground but everything else will be full go. Bates will play. I think all the starters will play.

(08-23-2022, 01:25 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Well if you keep saying it every single day you will eventually be correct.

(08-23-2022, 08:33 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Breaking news: #Bengals safety Jessie Bates, after not reporting for training camp at the start due to failed contract negotiations, is back in the team building, a source tells me

This comes a day before the team starts practices against the Rams. @Enquirer

— Kelsey Conway (@KelseyLConway) August 23, 2022

(08-23-2022, 08:17 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: So much wrong on this post...you might read mine again.  There is a calculation for the franchise tag for each position.  This was agreed to by the NFLPA.  Bates refuses to sign it and practice to this point, posturing that he will sit out the entire season.  This changed the way the Bengals approached the draft.  

As far as the Bengals original offer being below market, that is accurate only in terms of what was guaranteed.  The total value of the contract through its conclusion was very fair.  No one else on the team got a high 2nd year guarantee, but suddenly Bates should because...he played well in the postseason?  Tell me why he earns that over guys like Chido or Hilton?  Secondly, you need to show me evidence of when the Bengals didn't honor a contract to a star player.  Show me a case where a guy was injured and was released out of his contract, saving the Bengals millions and the player losing out.  

I don't know where to start with your connection between Bates being at every practice and having his shittiest season. 

I personally believe his agent is screwing Bates with this bad advice and posturing about sitting out the season.  You can believe otherwise, but I see a guy more concerned with his own reputation about getting unprecedented guarantees (which will NOT help the sport at all) rather than securing a future for the player.  

I sincerely hopes Bates is back soon and plays starting week 1.  I still believe he is a critical piece of this puzzle and it would be very fun to watch him and Hill together.  

(08-23-2022, 08:17 AM)SHRacerX Wrote:  

As far as the Bengals original offer being below market, that is accurate only in terms of what was guaranteed.  The total value of the contract through its conclusion was very fair. 

(08-22-2022, 10:50 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote:  I’ve said for almost a week I expect him to join them any day.

(08-23-2022, 08:55 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Nope I knew last Thursday and why I said next week and then followed up with any day starting yesterday.

(08-23-2022, 08:44 AM)BengalsLUFC Wrote: Well he’s made himself look like a bit of a tit really hasn’t he!

Two and a half weeks to go until the first game, Dax looking very good while he’s sat in a box and putting videos on Instagram like a don’t forget about me guys meaning.

He was never not going to sign the tag and play all his bluffing has made him look stupid question is was this advice from his agent or is his attitude all wrong? We saw during regular season he was distracted and nowhere near at his best.

If Dax carries his form in to the regular season than Bates has to perform at his best or he will be on the bench within weeks and his dream of being the highest paid safety in the league goes bye bye.

It’s win/win either way for us tbh.

(08-23-2022, 09:31 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Just give it up man.  You can't even keep your story straight in the same thread.

(08-23-2022, 01:30 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Well, if he keeps saying that everyday eventually he will be correct.

(08-23-2022, 09:38 AM)casear2727 Wrote: Apparently Bates is in the building today so I guess the barber was correct and once again you were a DH and wrong.  

(08-23-2022, 09:41 AM)pally Wrote: Pratt posted a photo on his IG story of Bates sitting at his locker putting things in it

(08-23-2022, 09:36 AM)casear2727 Wrote: This is your opinion.  We all would have liked Bates to have been here but he doesnt look like a tit when you see his side of the situation.

This take is confusing, Bates hasnt been bluffing anything after July 15th.  Bates recent absence had nothing to do with attitude or bluffing, not sure why this keeps being repeated?

(08-23-2022, 09:36 AM)casear2727 Wrote: This is your opinion.  We all would have liked Bates to have been here but he doesnt look like a tit when you see his side of the situation.

This take is confusing, Bates hasnt been bluffing anything after July 15th.  Bates recent absence had nothing to do with attitude or bluffing, not sure why this keeps being repeated?

(08-23-2022, 09:49 AM)BengalsLUFC Wrote: Of course it’s my opinion it’s a message board.

They (Bates or his agent or both)were obviously bluffing leaking out he wasn’t going to play on the tag when every man and his dog knew he wasn’t going to pass up on 13 million.

All that has done is make Bates miss a few weeks of camp and let Dax become the first thought in everyone’s minds when it comes to the future.

The fact he’s been in constant communication with the team makes me think it’s his agent advising him not to show up for what it’s worth.

Either way Bates has to perform at the hugest level this season and that can only be good for us.

(08-23-2022, 09:37 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Good to hear Bates back.

I expect the 4 safeties to make the roster to be Bates, Bell, Hill, and Thomas.

Hill should still get some defensive reps at safety but also could easily get some slot CB reps spelling Hilton.

Let's just hope that Bates plays very focused and well this season, increasing his value for FA.

(08-23-2022, 10:08 AM)Au165 Wrote: I am curious if they will keep 5 and consider Hill a "swing" CB until Cam Taylor Britt gets back. With Bates back in the fold it would not shock me if they don't move Hill all over the field and even let him provide some breathers on the outside at times.

(08-23-2022, 08:44 AM)BengalsLUFC Wrote: Well he’s made himself look like a bit of a tit really hasn’t he!

(08-23-2022, 08:55 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Nope I knew last Thursday and why I said next week and then followed up with any day starting yesterday.

(08-23-2022, 09:31 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Just give it up man.  You can't even keep your story straight in the same thread.