(03-01-2017, 01:02 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Good point, but if they draft a QB then arent we kind of eliminating the market for Mccarron? 

(02-28-2017, 11:09 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Defense holds one of the best offenses to 15 points (before the meltdown), forces multiple turnovers and short fields.

Offense scores 2 TDs the whole game vs one of the worst defenses. QB turns it over twice, fumbles 3 times, and has a rating of 68.

People credit the QB for "almost winning".

Had Mac led the offense to even 19 points, we would've won. 19 points isn't much to ask. But he's somehow a hero for scoring 16 points? Ok.

(03-01-2017, 01:37 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Doesn't matter. We are not going to get a top ten, or even a 1st round pick for McCarron. Let's face it, he was a 4th round pick who has played in just a few games. Don't get me wrong, I'm an AJ fan, but we just aren't going to get that much for him. Better to make the 4 teams ahead of us take their QB's in the draft, which will mean 4 of the elite prospects in the draft will still be there for us at #9 because those 4 teams had to draft for position instead of best player.

(03-01-2017, 01:53 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Don't forget that most of the points the Steelers did score were off turnovers, and both of the two TDs the Bengals scored were on drives that started on the Steelers side of the field.

(02-27-2017, 02:49 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: And by maddening, I mean COMPLETELY maddening?

The Bengals have a freaking BACKUP quarterback that can be dealt to pickup an extra second round, third round, or some solid combination of draft picks and or talent this year and they just refuse to cash in on it.

They have one of the best trade chips in the league and they continue to sit on their hands. This team has so many holes and they are valuing a BACKUP quarterback more highly than a nice draft pick that can possibly come in here and make an immediate impact. Its ridiculous.

If they dont trade Mccarron this year to try and improve the team then it will be one of the worst decisions this franchise has made in recent memory.

(03-01-2017, 12:58 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: That game was all on the defense. They were unreal. 

(03-01-2017, 01:53 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Don't forget that most of the points the Steelers did score were off turnovers, and both of the two TDs the Bengals scored were on drives that started on the Steelers side of the field.

(03-01-2017, 06:10 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Duke Tobin talking about McCarron:

“It rings and we pick it up,” Tobin said. “We’ll listen to whatever anybody is thinking. We are not actively trying to diminish our football team by trading AJ McCarron. Which that diminishes our football team. It has to be something we feel is valuable enough to warrant doing that.”

“We view our team as a team in the mix to challenge,” Tobin said speaking with reporters at the NFL Scouting Combine. “If you don’t have a viable No. 2 quarterback you can go to and win with you can tank your entire season. He’s a very valuable piece to what we do. If somebody wants to call and talk to us, call and talk to us. But they are going to find out we value AJ McCarron quite a bit.”

“There is some debate over whether he earned a season the first year,” he said. “We want to be respectful of his position and ultimately it will be decided by somebody other than AJ and the Cincinnati Bengals as to what is correct and what is not and we’ll go forward on that.”

“We are in the AJ McCarron business,” Tobin said. “He’s proven valuable. There’s going to have to be something pretty valuable for us to be out of that business."

(03-01-2017, 08:05 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: It was something to see. FINALLY we had one side of the ball that showed up for an entire playoff game. All it took was 7 tries for one unit to show up.


No doubt. McCarron and co provided as much for the Steelers as they did for their own team. It was a good ol' defensive slobber knocker as Lap would say.


Sounds to me like someone is trying to drive up the price and drum up interest for McCarron. This team has never valued the backup QB position. Even with injuries to Palmer, we had guys like Jordan Palmer, Josh Johnson, Bruce Gradkowski, JT O'Sullivan as backups. I'm not buying that they suddenly place heavy value on the backup. I believe Driskell was carried as a 3rd QB (the first time the team carried 3 QBs in several years) because they were preparing a backup to take over when/if McCarron gets traded.

In a move that will have a ripple effect on all QB-needy teams, Patriots are not expected to trade QB Jimmy Garoppolo, per league sources.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 1, 2017

(03-01-2017, 09:20 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Yeah, if you combine Duke's statements with the news about Jimmy G...

In a move that will have a ripple effect on all QB-needy teams, Patriots are not expected to trade QB Jimmy Garoppolo, per league sources.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 1, 2017

...the asking price for McCarron could end being more substantial than previously thought. 

(03-01-2017, 09:20 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Yeah, if you combine Duke's statements with the news about Jimmy G...

In a move that will have a ripple effect on all QB-needy teams, Patriots are not expected to trade QB Jimmy Garoppolo, per league sources.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 1, 2017

...the asking price for McCarron could end being more substantial than previously thought. 

(03-02-2017, 06:40 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I believe the Pats do intend to keep Jimmy G. Brady is is going to be 40 years old next season.

That would leave the QB's available pretty slim pickings. Jay Cutler, Tyrod Taylor, Colin Kaepernick, and AJ. I'd take AJ over any of those guys.

(03-02-2017, 06:40 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I believe the Pats do intend to keep Jimmy G. Brady is is going to be 40 years old next season.

That would leave the QB's available pretty slim pickings. Jay Cutler, Tyrod Taylor, Colin Kaepernick, and AJ. I'd take AJ over any of those guys.

(02-28-2017, 03:13 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: You could pick a guy that could have an impact at linebacker, defensive line, cornerback (granted Pac and Dre are gone), runningback, etc. There are holes on this team where a draft pick could make an impact. 

(02-28-2017, 03:37 PM)McC Wrote: The first pick, provided he makes it out of TC, should start, unless he's a CB.  At least, I would hope so.

The second round pick, if he is a G, would probably start at RG.  If he's a RB, if Burkhead is gone, he'll see playing time.  If he's a pass rusher, he should see playing time.  A RT might have a shot.  Other than that, I would agree.

(03-02-2017, 04:11 PM)Benton Wrote: Not disagreeing that a 2nd round pick could and should have an impact at a few different spots on this teams.

I just find it really unlikely one will get the opportunity unless there's an injury or there isn't a cheap veteran to pickup.

Guard — if Zeitler is gone — is the most likely place where a rookie might start, but if Whit is coming back I'm expecting Westerman or Ogie to take over there. Tobin's latest article is all praise for Ogie, but he needs a year or two more before he's able to handle DE's.

CB isn't out of the question, but at this point I'd prefer we looked for a vet if we're going to reshuffle back there and move on. We just haven't had good luck developing corners the last few years.

DL, may have to have someone coming in there.

(03-01-2017, 06:10 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Duke Tobin talking about McCarron:

“It rings and we pick it up,” Tobin said. “We’ll listen to whatever anybody is thinking. We are not actively trying to diminish our football team by trading AJ McCarron. Which that diminishes our football team. It has to be something we feel is valuable enough to warrant doing that.”

“We view our team as a team in the mix to challenge,” Tobin said speaking with reporters at the NFL Scouting Combine. “If you don’t have a viable No. 2 quarterback you can go to and win with you can tank your entire season. He’s a very valuable piece to what we do. If somebody wants to call and talk to us, call and talk to us. But they are going to find out we value AJ McCarron quite a bit.”

“There is some debate over whether he earned a season the first year,” he said. “We want to be respectful of his position and ultimately it will be decided by somebody other than AJ and the Cincinnati Bengals as to what is correct and what is not and we’ll go forward on that.”

“We are in the AJ McCarron business,” Tobin said. “He’s proven valuable. There’s going to have to be something pretty valuable for us to be out of that business."

(03-02-2017, 02:42 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Romo Might decide to try his luck elsewhere.