(03-09-2017, 10:19 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Not to be an ass, but could you actually spell that shit out?  It's tough to decipher what the frig you are trying to say.  You might be sharing great info, but who the heck would know?

(03-09-2017, 10:49 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: My guess was Lecharles Bentley. Found a pic of him at Bentley's OL performance school. 

(03-09-2017, 11:00 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The same Lecharles Bentley that was convicted for punching Tyson Walter, his own teammate back in '02?  Yeah, he's aggressive, I hope he can teach it as well as he demonstrated it.

I hope that he punches Ogbuehi a couple of times, that little ***** sure does need some toughening up..

(03-09-2017, 03:54 PM)milksheikh Wrote: Believe it or not...

I think Ogbuehi's last year was a fluke and he will show that he was well worth that 1st round selection.

He's apparently working on gaining strength right now and knows he had a terrible season and he's ready to prove others wrong.

I still think Ced can be that Franchise tackle.

http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Ced-Era-dawns-in-wake-of-Whit-departure/c93e990a-b32a-4c48-99c3-2ad08ef5beb0

(03-09-2017, 04:34 PM)Okeana Wrote: Finally someone who sees reason.  

(03-09-2017, 04:14 PM)pdub2005 Wrote: I consider myself a relatively savvy football fan, but I know there are a lot of people on here that fancy themselves amateur scouts. So the question I ask is, did anyone see anything positive out of Ced's play this year? To me he looked pretty awful, but I was never an o-linemen.

(03-09-2017, 05:01 PM)zygrot24 Wrote: Haven't been a bengal fan to long? They won't admit anything. Hell just a week or so ago, Marvin said the O-line wasn't an issue that year.

(03-10-2017, 09:21 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: I must have missed this...what did he say was the issue? 

Zamp?  

RB?  

(03-10-2017, 10:08 AM)Wyche Wrote: He said everyone was responsible for protecting the QB, and needs to play better....or some humdrum shit like that.

(03-10-2017, 10:15 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: I'm not even going to enter an accountability discussion again, but if he didn't address the offensive line for their performance how do we expect any position or position group to feel they are accountable for their performance?

The offensive line last year was an absolute dumpster fire, and Alexander and Ced should be fearing for their paychecks...

(03-09-2017, 04:00 PM)milksheikh Wrote: He just came off an ACL injury and I look at it like the Atkins situation.

Atkins got injured and came back not even half the man he was producing 3 sacks and people complaining.

After a whole offseason of just training to get better, Atkins got back to him old self.

I think that's one of the main reasons Ced had a bad year.

(03-10-2017, 12:22 PM)xxlt Wrote: And don't forget he was also playing out of position. Plus defensive coordinators are not dumb. If you were game planning against Cincy last year would you try to exploit Whitworth or anyone else on the line?

(03-10-2017, 09:21 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: I must have missed this...what did he say was the issue? 

Zamp?  

RB?  

Andy Dalton

(03-09-2017, 04:00 PM)milksheikh Wrote: He just came off an ACL injury and I look at it like the Atkins situation.

Atkins got injured and came back not even half the man he was producing 3 sacks and people complaining.

After a whole offseason of just training to get better, Atkins got back to him old self.

I think that's one of the main reasons Ced had a bad year.

(03-10-2017, 12:29 PM)Wyche Wrote: Except for when they slid Whit to LG and started Og at LT and he promptly gave up 2 very quick sacks and was benched again.  Poor ol Boling had to play all season with a separated shoulder because no one was good enough to spell him, or Whit in order to move Whit to LG.  Now we're rolling with that bunch as our starters on a unit that gave up 41 sacks.

Fun fact, the two newly departed guys combined to give up 1 sack.

(03-10-2017, 12:29 PM)Wyche Wrote: Except for when they slid Whit to LG and started Og at LT and he promptly gave up 2 very quick sacks and was benched again.  Poor ol Boling had to play all season with a separated shoulder because no one was good enough to spell him, or Whit in order to move Whit to LG.  Now we're rolling with that bunch as our starters on a unit that gave up 41 sacks.

Fun fact, the two newly departed guys combined to give up 1 sack.

(03-10-2017, 12:56 PM)xxlt Wrote: Those are relevant and accurate observations. And, the vultures may already be circling over what perhaps will soon be Andy Dalton's carcass.

I am not guaranteeing Ogbuehi will be a success. I am saying lots of "can't miss" guys miss in the NFL and the Bengals are not the only team that makes mistakes. I am also saying I remember a TON of criticism when the Bengals drafted a tackle named Munoz or something like that - big foreign looking kid from somewhere in California... and I also recall a fair amount of criticism when they drafted a tackle named Whitworth (some "experts" said it was a reach and that he might be able to play guard but not tackle...).

So, I am hoping the combination of 1. coming off injury, 2. making the jump to the NFL, 3. playing out of position, and 4. having your confidence shaken means that we don't have an accurate picture of our new starting LT yet. And as for the game where he promptly gave up 2 sacks - all the other 4 factors should be considered as background to that and I would suggest passing judgement on a career based on one bad series in one game would be akin to doing so based on a bad pre-season outing. I mean hell, there was probably a game early on in Jordan's rookie year where he had more fouls and turnovers than assists or rebounds or points.

I don't know if Cedric is going to do better when he gets a chance, but it appears he is getting one, and as a (long heartbroken fan of this confounding franchise) I am hoping he gets much better.

(03-10-2017, 01:02 PM)Wyche Wrote: Rep.


Oh, don't get me wrong, I am REALLY hoping he puts it all together, for our sake and Dalton's.  My issue is the lack of a backup plan by this FO, moreso than any personal vendetta against Ced, or even Piano Man.  It's the FO's fault we are in this position, and their fault we have an oline coach that says he can't coach up players during the season.  This was a TOTALLY Bungaled FA, no other way to put it.  Lose your two best FAs, and overpay for an average one.  Only in Son of Paul's bizarro world my friend....and I still say Zeitler should have been extended long before this became a fiasco.  Just bush league management.