(05-05-2017, 09:05 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Someone on the visitor's sideline hung a large sign near the upper deck last season that read:

Bengals 2016:  Watch, Wince, Repeat

I have to admit, it made me chuckle.

(05-05-2017, 09:35 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Despite what my disgruntled, disgusted, heart aching state with this team/owner/coach may seem to imply. Mostly owner and HC, and PA !

I do, very badly want to see success. Hell I'd be happy to just see a couple playoff wins !

And there's basicallyNO reason this team hasn't seen it. Except for the incompetence of the Coaching/ownership ! Please do something different and change the culture here and win a damn playoff game for the love of gawd.

(05-05-2017, 04:59 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: gotta believe its a make or break for marvin...... 

Likely Zampese too if the offense doesn't improve after last season.   (I understand we lost 2 WRs) but we declined hard on O  and I gotta blame a lot of that on playcalling

(05-05-2017, 08:09 AM)McC Wrote: The Bengals have done so many un-Bengal-like things this off season that the status quo really seems to have changed.  I believe the shake up will continue and we will see a new approach this season.

(05-05-2017, 09:01 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: For me it is simple:  One word... Attack!

Attack on offense.  I have heard Brady and Co. say how they simply try to score every time they have the ball.  That sounds incredibly simplistic, but that is so far from what the Bengals do...if they get a lead they take the foot off the gas and try to protect the lead with a lot of conservative three and outs.  Keep your foot on the opponent's neck and don't let them breathe (Atlanta Falcons).  

Attack on defense.  How about some more pressure schemes?  I liked when I saw the occasional safety blitz, but they were too few and far between.  I understand you get pressure with your front four in our 4-3 scheme, but you have to change it up every now and then to keep teams off balance.  

Attack on special teams.  I am not saying they need to become the Seahawks of the 80s with Jim Zorn and Effrin Herarra, but have some fakes designed and don't be afraid to call them.  

Bengals 2017 season:  Attack

(05-05-2017, 05:21 PM)Millhouse Wrote: First off I generally agree and like your posts. 

That said, what have they done that was so un-Bengal like this offseason? Same approach to free agency, check. The main coaches brought back, check. No new 'gm' brought in, check. Bringing in a player with a red flag past, check. Keeping Pacman, check. MB still has say on who they draft, check. 

Now they might have done something here or there that seems a bit out of character for them (which I am trying to figure out), but overall the status quo of the front office seems to be as strong as ever.

(05-04-2017, 11:30 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Ogbuehi was drafted knowing he had surgery and would be out maybe all year.. so really he only had one preseason and yes was limited after injury.  He did stay healthy during the season.. I am happy they have settled on putting him at the position he is best suited too and I hope he does finally gets a full preseason.. I actually believe he will be the most improved on the team.. when Willie and Munoz both have come out and said he does have the tools to play tackle, i feel with a set position , offseason work and a healthy preseason he will be the most improved on this team next year. 

(05-05-2017, 08:27 PM)McC Wrote: They signed a FA who is not on his last legs.  They cut Rey and Peko.  They drafted a wideout under 6'.  They drafted a DE who is 6'3".  They are changing their approach to at least a few relatively major things.  Their first two draft picks are seemingly guys who will play a lot as rookies.  And their third pick should see PT at least as a pass rusher. 

And this all might just be the beginning.  I'm not saying they turned into the Patriots overnight.  But they clearly made changes.

(05-05-2017, 09:31 PM)Millhouse Wrote: Gotcha. They seemed to have drafted better this year overall, only time will tell as it does for all teams. So that approach may have changed. I just think we disagreed what are major and minor changes is all, cause all I saw were minor ones in terms of Minter, Peko & Rey,  and the draft picks. Major changes for me would be a new HC, new 'GM', more scouts, etc. 

(05-05-2017, 08:27 PM)McC Wrote: They signed a FA who is not on his last legs.  They cut Rey and Peko.  They drafted a wideout under 6'.  They drafted a DE who is 6'3".  They are changing their approach to at least a few relatively major things.  Their first two draft picks are seemingly guys who will play a lot as rookies.  And their third pick should see PT at least as a pass rusher. 

And this all might just be the beginning.  I'm not saying they turned into the Patriots overnight.  But they clearly made changes.

(05-06-2017, 01:45 AM)samhain Wrote: I kind of view this team like I did the Atlanta Falcons of 2013-2015.  They had some great offensive pieces and a nice quarterback.  Unfortunately they suffered from dogshit o-line personnel.  I'll grant the Bengals one thing, and that's that they have all the weapons in place.  The Falcons weren't quite there.  

I think they'll have a couple of tough seasons behind this line before things come together, but I think they are set up to get there eventually..

it's a cliche, but the game truly is won in the trenches.  Joe Mixon and John Ross don't help much with that.  I think this team will be getting murdered in the trenches on the offensive side of the ball for the foreseeable future.