(11-24-2017, 09:09 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Hue Jackson, Duh... 







I think what Phil was trying to draw attention to is that the Rooney Rule may be something that's time has come to pass.  When the rule was first brought about, many coaches of color were being overlooked because of their ethnicity.  Now, in this day and age, the barriers have been eliminated, thus eliminating the need for such a rule.

Think about it, granting a man an interview based upon the color of his skin, rather than based upon the merits of his resume, is a bit patronizing in this day and age.

With that said, let's please put this topic to rest in this thread.  If someone wants to start a thread about it in Around the NFL, or even in P&R, that is perfectly fine.

(11-23-2017, 11:14 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Honestly I'm at the point where I really don't care as long as there's change.

The main thing I want is sweeping changes, I'd love to see Both Marvin and Paul Alexander and the lion's share of the rest of the gang gone !

And I don't want for sure no how, no way, any current or even past Bengal coaches promoted or hired except for Zimmer which ain't happening.

We really need a complete culture change ! Letting Marvin walk, keeping the majority of the staff (especially PA) in place and hiring a new HC basically does nothing !

But like you say set your sights low. We'll probably end up with Hue Jackson

(11-25-2017, 01:36 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: So I'd NEVER hire Alexander...but just because a coach is a good position coach doesn't mean it translates well to a HC. It's a totally different skillset.

There could be a position coach out there somewhere that doesn't have talented players at his position that coaches his guys up and has a lot of the traits needed to be a great HC.

Heck Cowher was a special teams coach.

I think Cooter for the Lions is interesting. The Lions are about as poorly managed as the Bengals and he generally gets god results there.

(11-24-2017, 03:48 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Yeah Shurmer was a victim of the train wreck that is the Browns. He was actually 5-11 his final year there. He has been successful as an offensive coach wherever he's been and has an extensive background in O-Lines. He was a vital cog in Philly's resurgence.  

(11-25-2017, 01:07 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Romo would be crazy to leave the booth to take a OC job. He’s got a great gig.

(11-25-2017, 01:37 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: You guys are all picking coaches who come from teams with good HC's and actual systems, other coaches that are good, and that have great personnel departments. They won't have those luxuries here.

Look for a coach that inherited a trainwreck and turned it around...

Like how hard is it to be the OC of the Patriots? Belicheck is a great HC. They have a great personnel department. A HOF quarterback. They sign free agents that come in and overperform. McDaniels went to Denver and sucked when he had none of those things.

(11-25-2017, 05:08 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, Shurmer should be on this list as well.

Quote:Another factor will be the future of offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur. He’s getting more and more buzz for a second shot at being a head coach (in hindsight, a 10-23 record during two years with the Browns doesn’t look all that awful)

(11-26-2017, 01:07 PM)firstand10 Wrote: It could be Hairbaugh after that humiliating defeat yesterday. Thats why  the Wolverines hired him to beat OSU, right now he's 0-4 ! If they do fire him he will only be 0-4, but ML is 0-7 !

(11-26-2017, 01:07 PM)firstand10 Wrote: It could be Hairbaugh after that humiliating defeat yesterday. Thats why the Wolverines hired him to beat OSU, right now he's 0-4 ! If they do fire him he will only be 0-4, but ML is 0-7 !

(11-23-2017, 05:47 PM)CornerBlitz Wrote: Please provide your top selection and reasoning.

The one thing I will say is that I'd go offense, our D will be just fine with Guenther.

(11-27-2017, 01:53 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: If marvin stays we could potentially see Dirk Koetter as OC if Hue isn’t fried by the Browns .  

Could also be Koetter as OC if Pauly is the guy.

Something to watch.

(11-24-2017, 10:23 PM)pally Wrote: Disagree
1) Mike Brown honors coaching contracts which means anyone new will have at least 3 years to make an impact
2) Andy is a proven productive QB...maybe not in the long run but will do until we can find the next dude (replacing him is not an emergency)
3) AJ Green proven star; Joe Mixon up and coming; Gio is stable producer; Tyler Kroft improving with each game
4) Proven core on defense
5) from what I read in outside press..Duke Tobin is well respected..maximizing his limited staff
6) Mike Brown may not be the best owner in the league but he's not disfunctional (see Irsay) and is transitioning over to Katie and Co.
7) Hopeful but low expectations from fans and without the glare of national media over every move

So whoever comes in will have time, a core group of solid players to build around in.  This isn't a total rebuild

(11-27-2017, 03:00 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Is there something that leads you to believe this, or is this just a name you like? I'd be happy with Koetter as OC. He's been fairly successful in 3 different places as OC (Jax, Atl and Tampa). He's coached some dominant run games.