(12-07-2017, 10:10 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Exactly. The second he makes a single NFL catch ill be ready to stuff crow down their throats, too. 

I say we still put him out there. This IR stuff is clearly another Marvin Lewis lie.  Next year when we have a real HC and he will play Ross. Then we will all be happy. 

Speed kills. 

I am eating crow pie out of a dirty ash tray on this one.

(12-07-2017, 02:07 PM)BMK Wrote: To me, of all the weirdness of this season, the whole Ross situation remains the most stupefying. There's never been a definitive word on what's been going on with that guy from day one. I do not believe that Marvin has kept him off the field for no reason other than just because he wanted to.  

Instead of making ML the villain here, it's entirely possible that he's been covering up some glaring physical, mental or health related weaknesses of the kid. Who knows...  Now all of a sudden, out of nowhere, Ross needs season ending surgery.  Just very strange the way it has, and continues to play out.

(12-07-2017, 02:12 PM)Sled21 Wrote: And making me defend Marvin Lewis??? THAT is on John Ross....and I'm just about done with him.

(12-06-2017, 07:25 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: On the bright side, we might get a look at Tupou this week.

(12-07-2017, 02:12 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Well, it's pretty clear by his go route that he stopped in the middle of (you know, the one where he would have been wide open and scored if he kept running), that not only is he fragile, but he hasn't learned the playbook. THAT is on John Ross, not Marvin Lewis. Hiding a shoulder injury is on John Ross, not Marvin Lewis. And making me defend Marvin Lewis??? THAT is on John Ross....and I'm just about done with him.

(12-07-2017, 02:22 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I think the part that confuses me is if he was hiding the other shoulder injury, why did it just come to light right after Marvin said he would play this Sunday? Why not have still kept it a secret?

But I agree, the injury should have been mentioned prior and could have made everyone quit being so furious at the org for not playing Ross when he seemed healthy.

(12-07-2017, 02:26 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Maybe I'm being negative here, but it sounds like Ross maybe wanted to stay off the field and lay low and as soon as Marvin was like "nuts to it, you're going in" he had to come clean.  It sort of reminds me of Bob Ucker saying he liked being the catcher stuck in the bullpen because the sooner he got in the game the sooner it would become clear that he wasn't any good at playing baseball.

(12-07-2017, 02:36 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I'm going to have to disagree with that because he openly said he rushed his ankle recovery to play and he hid injuries in the past to stay on the field.
It doesn't make sense to hide an injury only just to reveal it when called upon because he thought he wouldn't have to play.

(12-06-2017, 07:10 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: Fire everyone, burn down Paul Brown Stadium, bulldoze the ashes into the river, pray for anyone downstream who comes into contact with the ashes.

(12-07-2017, 09:13 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Well, this is like when you have diarrhea and you just keep wiping your ass and there just seems to be an endless amount of shit.  That is this season.  

(12-07-2017, 02:06 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Count me in the majorly disappointed crowd with Ross, thought he could be great.

But with another coach and an Offseason he might be able to come back i hope.

I guess i was completely wrong with the pick.

Could of had any number of players that would of atleast played more than a few snaps as a rookie.

I am eating crow pie out of a dirty ash tray on this one.

(12-07-2017, 03:13 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Honestly, no one knows how these guys will be when drafted. All 1st Round picks are starts in college basically.

On Ross, the injury history was concerning.

Generally I don't put a lot of stock in combine numbers. After Ross ran his 40, he was considered a 2nd Round or late 1st pick...and I heard the Bengals really liked him and it concerned me.

(12-07-2017, 03:18 PM)Nately120 Wrote: It did seem like a late-stage Al Davis kind of pick, didn't it?

(12-07-2017, 03:59 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Sadly, with our lack of scouts...we do scout workouts and the combine so you see us take freakishly fast guys or freakishly strong guys...that generally can't play football.

(12-06-2017, 07:10 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: Fire everyone, burn down Paul Brown Stadium, bulldoze the ashes into the river, pray for anyone downstream who comes into contact with the ashes.