(06-01-2018, 04:03 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Lewis isn't concerned, and said Dunlap was working out elsewhere. I doubt anyone in the front office is concerned....

(06-01-2018, 04:08 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Just read on the front page article on Michael Johnson, that he just joined Dunlap at Carlos Expanded Football Camp.. So I would tend to guess Carlos has been getting ready for his youth camp. No big deal.

Good to know. Like we were thinking all along.

(06-01-2018, 12:52 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Since Dunlap has come into the league having questionable work ethic and such he has totally thrown this notion
out of the window and has become an outstanding character in the NFL. I think he is missing Voluntarys cause he
is in a contract year and wants to stay healthy. I don't believe this takes away from his character, lots of veteran
players do this. He will be here for Mandatorys and TC.

The Shittsburgh pukes are what they are, scum. Just agreeing with Sled that lots of vet players don't think they
need the Voluntarys nowadays.

I just don't think Dunlap would sit out for those guys. If you think they are being blacklisted unjustly, that is your
opinion. I disagree with it though, these players should of told teams they would stick to playing football this year
instead of saying they will continue to bring politics into the game of football. This is on them IMO.

(06-01-2018, 12:56 PM)fredtoast Wrote: When it came time for his second contract the Bengals chose to pay him and let MJ walk.  I think that would have earned some loyalty to the team.

But we have no idea what all is going on with personal relationships between players coaches and front office.

(06-01-2018, 06:16 PM)The Gooney Rule Wrote: Definitely agree there should be some familiarity and a bit of loyalty from the first contract. 

Am I misremembering though that the deal was offered to MJ first, and when he didn't take it, they shifted to Dunlap? ...Or at least was it like, whoever takes this offer first gets signed type thing? I feel like I heard that, but certainly don't know if it was confirmed.

And wouldn't it be great to at least listen in on front office dealings? That's why I do find it pretty interesting to play a bit of psychologist following along with what they're deciding to share on social media. It's as good a thing as any out there to get a little bit of edge on what way people might be inclined to think about things like contracts, teams, teammates, and the league.  

(06-01-2018, 06:16 PM)The Gooney Rule Wrote: Definitely agree there should be some familiarity and a bit of loyalty from the first contract. 

Am I misremembering though that the deal was offered to MJ first, and when he didn't take it, they shifted to Dunlap? ...Or at least was it like, whoever takes this offer first gets signed type thing? I feel like I heard that, but certainly don't know if it was confirmed.

And wouldn't it be great to at least listen in on front office dealings? That's why I do find it pretty interesting to play a bit of psychologist following along with what they're deciding to share on social media. It's as good a thing as any out there to get a little bit of edge on what way people might be inclined to think about things like contracts, teams, teammates, and the league.  

(06-01-2018, 12:56 PM)fredtoast Wrote: When it came time for his second contract the Bengals chose to pay him and let MJ walk.  I think that would have earned some loyalty to the team.

(06-01-2018, 06:06 PM)The Gooney Rule Wrote: Thanks for more commentary. Like the point about how Dunlap has really flipped the script on what was portrayed as a questionable work ethic when he first came into the league. He seems to be a leader now for sure.

Makes a lot of sense what you say about stepping back from OTA's as a health precaution in a contract year. It does seem to be a common step for a lot of vets. As an aside - I never fully got behind the idea that young guys would be learning from the vets in OTA's. It always made more sense to me to have the young guys get as many reps as possible.

I can't be for sure at all how Carlos feels about players like Kaepernick and Reid. I do agree that most wouldn't sit out for somebody else, and that's understandable. I do disagree on your point about politics in the game - for me, this isn't a political issue at all. It's a societal issue, a human issue, a justice issue, with no regard for party. 

I certainly don't think any player who feels the same can't compartmentalize his efforts and energy, and would be able to continue to contribute at a high level between the lines. If the players truly can't hack it on the field, that's a different story. But in my opinion, the politics are coming from the stands, and the economics are being decided in the owner's boxes, and the players are just supporting society, while continuing to put on a show we all go crazy for.  

(06-02-2018, 09:11 AM)Sled21 Wrote: You're right, they were trying to re-sign Johnson, and when that deal didn't get done they offered the money to Carlos, who jumped on it.

(05-29-2018, 08:03 AM)Sled21 Wrote: He's a Defensive End. Regardless of what new schemes the backfield is playing, his job is to pretty much get after the quarterback.... I still say it's no big deal, and a great opportunity for the new guys to get more reps.... 

(06-02-2018, 07:57 PM)XsandOs Wrote: Agreed. Whoever calls the alignment and assignments will get him set. So he will be fine. 

Ultimately, he is putting his money where his mouth is, and holding out for an extension.

Does he feel that Hubbard was drafted as bargaining leverage against him? Or does he feel that Hubbard is drafted to replace him?

Maybe he doesn't like the offer.

Who knows.

But whether he comes in now or 2 months from now, doesn't matter much.

(06-05-2018, 04:41 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Hubbard was drafted to replace MJ.

You don't just replace a player of Dunlap's stature.

(06-06-2018, 10:57 AM)Bengal Dude Wrote: Well we also drafted Jordan Willis and Carl Lawson. So it seems like the team is prepared to let Dunlap walk if he doesn't accept their offer. Geno has all the negotiating power right now since all we have behind him is Andrew Brown.

(06-07-2018, 08:08 AM)Sled21 Wrote: He's baaaack... and it sounds like he was gone not to "hold out", but because he wants to be in the best shape possible to make a run at the sac record....

(06-07-2018, 08:30 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Lol I’m a big Dunlap fan but he’s never getting anywhere near the sack record. He should have never made that comment.