(06-27-2018, 01:47 PM)Wyche Wrote: Trust us Seminoles fans Nate.....he was pretty shitty.

(06-27-2018, 01:47 PM)Wyche Wrote: Trust us Seminoles fans Nate.....he was pretty shitty.

(06-27-2018, 09:37 AM)WychesWarrior Wrote: I mean....his predecessor was here for 25 years.  It's more about losing that boat anchor than anything.  Alexander hand picked Fisher and Ogbuehi.  Alexander was run game coordinator of a dismal run game.  Alexander pretty much had a HUGE part in tanking the last two seasons.  Alexander coached a passive blocking scheme where the lineman reacts to the defender instead of attacking him.  Alexander used arm pads and little else in practices.  Once Lazor told him to sit down and shut up last season, the run game improved dramatically.  Even the pass pro improved.  Alexander played favorites.

Enter Pollack.  Clean slate, no favorites.  He preaches an aggressive technique where the OL punches the defender in the mouth instead of retreating and reacting.  He has brought in old school practice equipment like the chute, and is running a more intense, more disciplined practice by all accounts.  Pollack has overseen one of the best o lines in all of football over the last couple years.  Pollack has openly embraced the added help of Jim McNally and other Bengal greats from the past instead of letting his ego get in the way.

Yeah, I can't imagine why there's hype surrounding this guy....

(06-27-2018, 01:39 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: You know it Wyche, i will say it again, i don't know how anyone that is a Bengal fan would not like what Frank Pollack
has brought here. PA was our biggest weakness cause he had such a big ego and played favorites, cannot do this as a
coach, this is the exact opposite of Pollack and guys like Scarnecchia in New England.

They start the best players period.

(06-27-2018, 02:06 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote:              I agree with pretty much all that you say and I’m looking forward to seeing how it all plays out. It’s just the restatement thread after thread that makes my head spin. A new philosophy was way overdue, the line should automatically be better because of the new pieces though. I’m not bashing Pollack at all. I guess one thing that I’m skeptical about is this was a fan appeasement to just keep bringing Marvin back. It took all of the emphasis off of Marvin and everyone seems to have forgotten that he’s still the top dog. You could literally see it in Marvin’s eyes last year that he was worn out and had given up. PA needed to be gone regardless. I just don’t know how much a OL coach who has to listen to a OC who has to listen to a Marvin will matter. Improved technique will matter, sure. Will Pollack have the say on schemes and who plays where and when they play though? I want to be super optimistic like most on here but I’ve bought in so many times and would like to see some results first.

(06-27-2018, 02:24 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: I feel you on that my man.....lots of good points.  I have the same doubts you do.  I also understand what you mean about it being rehashed over and over, but it's the offseason....lol.  As you hint at, the proof will be in the pudding.  Lazor was ballsy enough to shut down PA, maybe he's ballsy enough to do what he thinks is right.  Hope is all we have I guess.

(06-27-2018, 02:22 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote: My point is, what has Pollack brought here? I’m sorry, but I need real game results first. You think that Pollack will have say over who starts or who plays when over Marvin? I’ll have to see huge line improvements in games first before I’m that giddy about Pollack. I say huge because the new talent automatically makes the line better even if PA were still here. I like that they brought Pollack in. It seems like a good move and I hope that he’s not handcuffed. I just like to let things play out before I heap, heap and heap praise on someone. That doesn’t mean that I’m right, I’m just a results first type person.

(06-27-2018, 02:22 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote: My point is, what has Pollack brought here? I’m sorry, but I need real game results first. You think that Pollack will have say over who starts or who plays when over Marvin? I’ll have to see huge line improvements in games first before I’m that giddy about Pollack. I say huge because the new talent automatically makes the line better even if PA were still here. I like that they brought Pollack in. It seems like a good move and I hope that he’s not handcuffed. I just like to let things play out before I heap, heap and heap praise on someone. That doesn’t mean that I’m right, I’m just a results first type person.

(06-27-2018, 02:15 AM)grampahol Wrote: At this point with the new line coach I haven't written anyone off. We as fans really don't know exactly what we really have. If it was as many expected and the main culprit was PA then the two top draft picks may just turn into top linemen. On the other hand it's possible Pollack talks a good game, but isn't really capable of doing what we're hoping for and they continue to flounder.. The truth is we really won't know how this bunch is going to turn out until we get to see them play against other teams with live football teams.
Personally I think they're going to turn things around and we'll see a whole different offensive line, but for now it's a whole lot of hoping and speculation. 

(06-27-2018, 02:22 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote: My point is, what has Pollack brought here? 

(06-27-2018, 02:26 AM)Circleville Guy Wrote: You caught me. I am pleased to have him, I’m just tired of hearing how he’s the best thing since sliced bread. I do wish him much success, I just can’t remember reading this much hoopla over a position coach.

(06-27-2018, 02:44 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote: I do like what I got to see from Lazor. I do think that Pollck will help bring back an emphasis to the run game and that’s a huge part of what’s been missing.

(06-27-2018, 09:37 AM)Wyche Wrote: I mean....his predecessor was here for 25 years.  It's more about losing that boat anchor than anything.  Alexander hand picked Fisher and Ogbuehi.  Alexander was run game coordinator of a dismal run game.  Alexander pretty much had a HUGE part in tanking the last two seasons.  Alexander coached a passive blocking scheme where the lineman reacts to the defender instead of attacking him.  Alexander used arm pads and little else in practices.  Once Lazor told him to sit down and shut up last season, the run game improved dramatically.  Even the pass pro improved.  Alexander played favorites.

Enter Pollack.  Clean slate, no favorites.  He preaches an aggressive technique where the OL punches the defender in the mouth instead of retreating and reacting.  He has brought in old school practice equipment like the chute, and is running a more intense, more disciplined practice by all accounts.  Pollack has overseen one of the best o lines in all of football over the last couple years.  Pollack has openly embraced the added help of Jim McNally and other Bengal greats from the past instead of letting his ego get in the way.

Yeah, I can't imagine why there's hype surrounding this guy....

(06-27-2018, 01:17 PM)SHRacerX Wrote: I brought that up on another thread and actually believe that could be our best option.  

(06-27-2018, 02:44 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote: I do like what I got to see from Lazor. I do think that Pollck will help bring back an emphasis to the run game and that’s a huge part of what’s been missing.

(06-27-2018, 01:35 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: He wouldn't of gotten drafted if he was bad in college.

Not saying he is good, just saying he might not be the complete schlub some were saying when we signed him
and Pollack must of seen something in the guy.

(06-27-2018, 03:52 PM)3wt Wrote: This post perfectly embodies why I'm excited.   I want to say that I think Alexander proved over the years to be a talented and knowledgeable OL coach - his peers clearly believe this.  But I hated his last several years here.  Hated his hubris, hated his draft choices and hated his response to reasonable questions.  My outside take was that he was an arrogant inflexible jerk.

I expect he'll do fine in Dallas.  But I'm not going to lie, I hope he flops.  But I don't think he will and I would just rather Pollack and our new line just out and out kill it.

(06-27-2018, 04:04 PM)3wt Wrote: I like a LOT of what I'm seeing/ hearing from and about Lazor.

I thought when he first took over (before I knew anything about him), OK we have the Beaver Cleaver coach who's going to get the Dave Shula award for competence and originality.

But the guy is panning out big time. If he succeeds over the next two years we're going to need to go back to the inheritance clause for head coach.   And if he's that successful maybe Marvin will be ready to call it a wrap.

(06-27-2018, 04:24 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: One, I watched every single one of his games in college, as I am a Noles fan. Two, players are not drafted based on college production, they are drafted based on potential. He has a lot of physical potential, why he was a 5-star recruit, he has no mental potential. He was criticized and benched multiple times in college for lack of effort and work ethic. He’s a fat shclub that got away with just being the bigger guy in high school. Doesn’t work in college or the NFL.

(06-26-2018, 05:03 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I see Westerman winning the RG spot. With Pollack's emphasis on getting hands up fast and punching through the blocks, I think Westerman, being that he is an undefeated boxer, will win. At RT I think as long as Fisher's heart holds up, I suspect he will be the starting tackle.