(03-25-2019, 01:18 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: You do realize that the Redskins traded for Case Keenum?

They're not going to trade for Dalton too.

(03-25-2019, 08:24 PM)jason Wrote: This where I'm at... I like Devin Bush, but I'm not sure I like him at 11. In fact I know I don't.

(03-25-2019, 01:22 PM)Synric Wrote: If Kyler Murray is there at 11 it probably means it's a Bo Callahan situation...something is wrong.

(03-25-2019, 01:13 PM)depthchart Wrote: I heard a respected NFL Analyst on the Radio this morning. I believe it was on the Clay Travis Radio Show.

He thinks that Arizona would have already traded Josh Rosen were they interested in taking Kyler Murray and that Washington would have traded for Josh Rosen instead of Case Keenum had Arizona been willing to trade Josh Rosen.

He thinks Arizona will take Nick Bosa #1 overall and that Kyler Murray could fall in the Draft.

He then said that he doubts Jon Gruden would go away from QB Derek Carr, so Murray could slip past the Raiders at pick #4.

Dwayne Haskins likely the first QB off the board possibly to the Giants.

He also said that he did not think Denver would take Murray at #10 overall since John Elway does not like short quarterbacks.

I have heard this NFL Insider guy speak on numerous occasions on this Radio program and he seems pretty legit to me; though it is still his opinion.

Kyler Murray reminds me of Russell Wilson.

Murray has excellent pocket awareness, escape ability, quick release, balance, strong arm, accuracy, instincts etc.

If he is sitting there at #11, then I would take him.

Then work with Washington to get their first round pick in this year's Draft (pick #15 overall) for Andy Dalton. Maybe add a later round pick in with Andy if needed.

The Bengals would have a 21 year old quarterback on a rookie contract for the next 5 years that appears to me to be slightly quicker and faster than 6 time Pro Bowler Russell Wilson.

I like and respect Andy Dalton & have been glad to have him here as our QB; but if the opportunity presents itself then I pull the trigger on Kyler Murray (if he slips down to pick #11). Then work with Washington & Jay Gruden on a trade for Andy.

I would make this Zac Taylor's Stamp on the team but we will soon see the actual Plan taken by the Bengals. 

Zac obviously has to decide on how he Stamps this team himself. (unless Mike decides for him) 

If the chance for Kyler Murray presents itself at pick #11 then I would go for it...

(03-25-2019, 05:16 PM)depthchart Wrote: Charlie Casserly (won a Super Bowl as a GM) was on NFL Network about a week ago and brought up the Bengals. He considers Dwayne Haskins & Kyler Murray to be Top Tier talents while considering Dalton to be "mid tier" & someone he would try to upgrade from with either Haskins or Murray.

Baker Mayfield acclimated pretty quickly to the NFL last year and while Dalton's experience level would serve him well initially; I would expect Murray's incredible instincts to adjust and move away from pressure in the pocket to surpass Dalton's in due time. Murray has spider like quickness and looks downfield to throw while avoiding pressure similar to how Baker Mayfield does. Only Murray is quicker on his feet than Mayfield.

Murray may be able to play behind a poor offensive line in a way similar to Russell Wilson.

That said it is a risk and we could use Dalton in 2019 while Murray develops.

Eye of the beholder though and the knife could cut in either direction. Good move or bad move.

(03-26-2019, 08:07 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I wouldn't be opposed to drafting Murray or Haskins, although I think we have far greater needs to meet than a QB, but I would be dead set against drafting one and trading Dalton all at the same time, as was proposed in the op....

(03-26-2019, 08:41 AM)yellowxdiscipline Wrote: I wouldn't take him. That's a hard pass for me. You know there's another team picking after us that's probably clamoring for Murray and QB isn't a huge need for us at the moment, not to mention next years class is supposed to be better and deeper. If Murray is there at 11 I'd trade the pick, load up on prospects and see how next season plays out with Dalton.

(03-26-2019, 08:56 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: We already have 11 picks, absolutely no reason to trade for anymore.

(03-26-2019, 09:03 AM)yellowxdiscipline Wrote: ok.

So trading up in the other rounds isn't a thing? Or getting picks for next years draft isn't a thing either?

(03-26-2019, 10:30 AM)JWW1971 Wrote: We won't take a QB in the first couple of rounds.
Taylor has said over and over again that Dalton is his man and he will be for the next 2 years unless he gets a bad injury.
We will probably take a QB in the later rounds as back up or take a FA after the draft

(03-26-2019, 10:33 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Packaging some picks and trading up I’d be down for, but trading back for more picks when we already have so many? Hell no. I want a player taken with that 11th pick. Hopefully a day 1 contributor.

(03-26-2019, 10:53 AM)yellowxdiscipline Wrote: Murray or Haskins would be the only guys id take in this years draft, but i dont think were moving on from Andy for at least another season or two. I think next year is the year to draft his replacement. This year i want to set Andy or the next guy up for success.

(03-25-2019, 05:14 PM)Joelist Wrote: No interest in Murray and his red flags, plus this is a weak QB class and we have FAR higher priorities like LB and OL.

(03-25-2019, 05:23 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: I want no part of Murray. I don’t like his demeanor. At all.