(09-06-2019, 11:46 AM)jj22 Wrote: Again, I'm just questioning why it was fine to compare two qb's who didn't start equal games but get upset when two qb's were compared who didn't start equal games.

That's all.

I didn't do it.

(09-06-2019, 11:42 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Where is the hate on Dalton?  Someone took issue with the notion that Trubisky is ranked higher than Dalton when Trubisky's last season 14-game rating was better than Dalton's last rating, and better than all of Dalton's season end ratings except for 2015 where he played 13 games.

That just numbers and stuff.  And if Dalton has a higher rating than Trubisky after 2019 (which looks like it could be a pretty easy task) he should should SHOULD be ranked higher than Mitch going into 2020.  Nothing to hate-ey about it, on its surface, but numbers are neutral and it's what people do with them that makes the difference.


Ok well that's a different argument that requires us to look at a different set of data.  I'm just talking about the rating which is what has been presented here and I haven't even said that being ranked above another guy is indicative of who is legitimately better.  I'm not dying on Trubisky hill here, I was just responding to the latest cries of the universe being unfair to Andy Dalton.  Then again, I'm a vocal critic of "The Bengal way" so don't think I don't take that stuff into consideration.

(09-06-2019, 11:46 AM)jj22 Wrote: Again, I'm just questioning why it was fine to compare two qb's who didn't start equal games but get upset when two qb's were compared who didn't start equal games.

That's all.

I didn't do it.

(09-06-2019, 11:47 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: They will only use info that props up others while trashing AD because it does not fit their narrative. Their desire to hate AD takes over their common sense. 

This sounds very familiar as same narrative happening in politics now.

(09-06-2019, 11:52 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Lord knows nobody irrationally supports a politician, either.  At any rate, Dalton should love this first flop of a game because if he can find his arse with both hands he will be better than Trubisky and Rodgers.

(09-06-2019, 12:01 PM)NKURyan Wrote: After Chicago found itself staring at 1st and 40 I felt pretty happy that ZT installed a play clock in practice, lol.

I can't fathom how a team gets two straight delay of game penalties at home. Awful.

(09-06-2019, 12:03 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I don't think AD gets emotionally involved on how fans rate QB's who are mostly clueless.

His performance will be against a very good defense on the road. Wilson gets a pass playing arguably a top 3 worst defense in the league so Wilson should have a huge day based on competition being faced.

Dalton is unlucky in one sense, he does not get to play the Bengal's defense once or twice a year. Trubisky on the other hand does not have to play a great Bears defense once or twice a year.

(09-06-2019, 12:03 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I don't think AD gets emotionally involved on how fans rate QB's who are mostly clueless.

His performance will be against a very good defense on the road. Wilson gets a pass playing arguably a top 3 worst defense in the league so Wilson should have a huge day based on competition being faced.

Dalton is unlucky in one sense, he does not get to play the Bengal's defense once or twice a year. Trubisky on the other hand does not have to play a great Bears defense once or twice a year.

(09-06-2019, 12:01 PM)NKURyan Wrote: After Chicago found itself staring at 1st and 40 I felt pretty happy that ZT installed a play clock in practice, lol.

I can't fathom how a team gets two straight delay of game penalties at home. Awful.

(09-06-2019, 12:08 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Idk about that. His best season came after he did extensive offseason work because he was booed at a softball game...

And Dalton’s lucky days of playing a terrible Ohio team are probably sadly over. No more padding stats against the worst of the worst.

(09-06-2019, 10:54 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: What I’ll tell you is that Fitzpatrick only started 7 games last year so it’s a stupid ***** comparison.

(09-06-2019, 12:57 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Dalton only started 11.  Stupid is as stupid does.

I actually think Trubisky is a decent QB, but Dalton's career numbers are better than his and Dalton's best season is better than his best.

(09-06-2019, 12:08 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: And Dalton’s lucky days of playing a terrible Ohio team are probably sadly over. No more padding stats against the worst of the worst.

(09-06-2019, 11:16 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Trubisky and John Ross could probably have a few drinks and gripe about this.

(09-06-2019, 01:28 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: You can say that about the majority of the top 10 that year. If we're being honest everyone is pissed about missing out on Mahomes.

(09-06-2019, 01:09 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Wow.  Did not realize last nights game was about Andy Dalton.  Sorry for contributing to the derailment.

Getting back to the original topic, I predicted in preseason that because of the new emphasis on calling holding on O-linemen sack numbers will go up and passing numbers will go down.

The passing numbers were getting ridiculous last year.  This is the leagues way of addressing that.