(10-19-2019, 04:35 PM)fredtoast Wrote: You can't say we were not good last year because of luck and then say we are better this year except for bad luck.

Fact is that after 5 games last year our offense ranked 17th in yards and 9th in yards per play and our defense ranked 25th in yards and 17th in yards per play allowed.  We were 7th in the league in point differential at +23.

This year our offense ranks 24tt in yards and 28th in yards per play while our defense ranks 31st in both total yards and yards per play.  We are 30th in point differential at (-62).

But those first 5 games last year our offense was generally pretty healthy.  Our O-line starters were not the greatest, but at least they were starters.  While Turner seems to be the most hated coach around here I think he is one guy who deserves a chance to see what he can do with starting caliber O-linemen.  

But our defense has just gone to total shit.  It started last year, but it has gotten worse this year.  I know we are weak in some spots, but poor LB play should not make our DBs look lost or our pass rush from our D-line disappear.

I don't know if it is horrid coaching or players not caring, but this team is bottoming out.

(10-19-2019, 08:45 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I see Burrows mocked in the 20's. Where would you select him at? He's projected to be like the 4th QB. I don't know that he has the arm strength to be an elite QB. Seems more like a Dalton or Tannehill caliber guy.

(10-21-2019, 11:26 AM)Wyche Wrote: See my reply about him in another thread....people weren't all that high on Daniel Jones either....

(10-21-2019, 12:14 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Any QB we draft, we need to watch their feet when the blitz comes. They have to have the ability to sense it and move up a few feet.

I feel like aside from arm strength and accuracy...that that's the next biggest thing.

(10-21-2019, 01:08 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: This is why my least favorite atm is Herbert.  Happy feet and high throws under pressure.  Rocket of an arm though.  

(10-21-2019, 01:08 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: This is why my least favorite atm is Herbert.  Happy feet and high throws under pressure.  Rocket of an arm though.  

(10-21-2019, 01:31 PM)ochocincos Wrote: My thought is that it didn't make sense to try to fix a square peg into a round hole.
So many of the players were selected to play into a certain scheme.
It's pretty clear that they don't have the proper players to fit into the schemes they are trying to run.
They also are tremendously failing to adjust the scheme to fit the players.

On offense, the Rams system doesn't work without a great OL and 3 very good receivers.
On defense, the scheme doesn't work with slow LBs and a non-elite secondary.

(10-18-2019, 10:59 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: I don't think Taylor is going anywhere for at least 3 years. However, it is clear Turner must go at the end of the season if not sooner. I don't know what to think of Sweet Lou. Bengals bend but do not break still is ugly football. Maybe he should go at the end of season. I would also take a long look at each position coach and conduct evaluations based on players's performance and development.

I think if Taylor misses on the next couple draft, he will seal his own fate. I do not know if any trades are going to be made but I think some vets are done with Cincinnati. Let Taylor get new blood, give him a year or two to implement schemes that match his personnel. Bring in a GM that will bring in first Day Free Agents. If the team had talent and still looked this way then it would indicate coaching.

The narrative that players have regressed is bona fide but one must ask why. Is it the coaching or is it some other variables like losing a dozen games in a row. It could be schemes which would indicate coaching by coordinators. But this O-Line has been porous for a while, the talent along the OL and backers just isn't there. Dalton is a year older and injuries appear convenient for some players. Makes me wonder.

(10-21-2019, 03:44 PM)TJHoushmandzadeh Wrote: With Anarumo, if you fire him what are you then going to do?

Who is going to want to come to Cincinnati to coach a D that has been bottom 5 two years in a row, has had just two draft picks in 5 years from rounds 1-2 (and the only 1st rounder among them will be entering his contract year and probably wants out) when it's an open secret that you are going QB in round 1, you don't sign free agents and you've still got a bunch of holes on the O-line that need to be filled to protect your rookie QB?

It's career suicide.

(10-21-2019, 03:54 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: After watch another defense performance where the Bengal offense left about 11 TOP disparity I think Lou did okay with what he has.  He may be a keeper.  I go back-and-forth on him.

(10-21-2019, 03:58 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Lou Anarumo is the only new coach or coordinator the Bengals hired who improved their unit.  The defense still leaks lots of yardage but they aren’t giving up gobs of points.  He’s not likely the long term solution but he is making the proverbial silk purse of of a sow’s ear.

(10-21-2019, 04:04 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: I agree.  He is doing the best with what he has in terms of talent and personnel.  Plus, this offense is SO BAD that the defense is playing almost twice as long as the offense.  sad.  

(10-21-2019, 04:04 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: I agree.  He is doing the best with what he has in terms of talent and personnel.  Plus, this offense is SO BAD that the defense is playing almost twice as long as the offense.  sad.  

(10-21-2019, 05:04 PM)Cicero Wrote: Yeah with the protection of even a mediocre offense I think they would look a lot better. As it is they get zero protection with only three plays before they have to trot back out there.

(10-21-2019, 06:21 PM)kevin Wrote:   So people can make all the wish lists of coaches as in years past and then throw it all away because as long as Mike Brown is here, the good coaches are not coming.  I don't blame them, working for Mike is a step down, not a good career move.