(12-28-2019, 10:41 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: That's all we got Sunset.  Joe Burrow and Jonah Williams being the Tackle we need.

A lot of people were hoping Taylor could turn a perceived 5-11 team into a modest 8 to 9 win team from coaching in his first year.

The poll totals suggested that less than 8 wins would be considered a failure.

That was hope for this current season.  Taylor/returning injured players/draft/FAs.  Well we saw how that panned out...  #1OA

So yeah.  JB's success is kinda gonna be a turning point for putting asses in seats and fans to give a damn about the team.

(12-28-2019, 10:41 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: That's all we got Sunset.  Joe Burrow and Jonah Williams being the Tackle we need.

A lot of people were hoping Taylor could turn a perceived 5-11 team into a modest 8 to 9 win team from coaching in his first year.

The poll totals suggested that less than 8 wins would be considered a failure.

That was hope for this current season.  Taylor/returning injured players/draft/FAs.  Well we saw how that panned out...  #1OA

So yeah.  JB's success is kinda gonna be a turning point for putting asses in seats and fans to give a damn about the team.

(12-28-2019, 11:03 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It just sucks that's always...wait until next year for us Bengals fans.

But, the Browns fans got a cruel lesson this year too. You cant just add 2-3 big names and win either.

Man...is Kitchens a cautionary tale for us that adding players with bad coaches wont help.

(12-28-2019, 10:09 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: I feel ya man.

I was telling a friend of mine the other day who also is a Bengals fan.

"There isn't a thing in my life that I know more about that causes so much frustration that I have NO control over."

You realize this when you talk to a casual fan and you're producing players of past and present from household name ones to bottom roster or PS guys.

Then you discuss topics about the team like we do on here and they have no clue.

It's a realization of lost time and money towards an ownership that of course would like to win, but either are lazy or don't know how to run a modern NFL team.

So yeah.  I get where you're coming from about losing your desire and interest for the Bengals.

(12-28-2019, 10:28 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: From one fan to another, I'm glad that you found some hope to hold onto.

(12-28-2019, 11:21 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote: Me too. I really think that most on here want to be optimistic. It seems a little harder for us fans that went through the 90’s. It was beginning to look very familiar.

(12-28-2019, 11:14 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Kitchens is definitely a problem, but I also think no matter how much talent a team assembles it has to be the right group of players. Even with bad coaching there’s no way Cleveland should be this bad. Might be some character issues in that locker room...

(12-28-2019, 11:21 PM)Circleville Guy Wrote: Me too. I really think that most on here want to be optimistic. It seems a little harder for us fans that went through the 90’s. It was beginning to look very familiar.

(12-28-2019, 11:29 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I've been with this franchise as a fan since it's inception. I see nothing but good things on the horizon.

(12-28-2019, 11:32 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: Though I don't disagree with character issues I also have seen Kitchens do some real head scratching things.

(12-29-2019, 01:18 AM)samhain Wrote: I have a COC request. Can we add calling Joe Burrow "Joe Burrows" to the list of punishable offenses.

(12-29-2019, 01:20 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Now THIS I agree with you on.

It’s been driving me nuts lol

(12-28-2019, 11:14 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Kitchens is definitely a problem, but I also think no matter how much talent a team assembles it has to be the right group of players. Even with bad coaching there’s no way Cleveland should be this bad. Might be some character issues in that locker room...

(12-29-2019, 01:35 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Kitchens needs to go because that team might MIGHT actually be good if they get a real HC and spend the off-season hearing about what disappointing losers they are as opposed to all the love they got going into 2019.  Assuming the Browns will never be good even if they get a real HC could be folly on our part.  I can see why people went overboard with the love going into this year, but people are going to be piling on the hate after being wrong.

Look at the Steelers....they win multiple SBs with Ben and Hines Ward and James Harrison, three guys who are despised and continuously cause issues within their own locker room.  They were even notching some impressive seasons with Bell and AB who are both poison to other organizations.  Winning cures all...I can't believe I have to explain this after all of America managed to forget that Michael Jordan suddenly went from biggest a-hole in sports to kid-friendly hero to all and then back to biggest a-hole in sports thanks to a wee bit of winning in the middle, there.

(12-29-2019, 01:37 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: The “Killer B’s” never won a damn thing together.

(12-29-2019, 01:18 AM)samhain Wrote: I have a COC request.  Can we add calling Joe Burrow "Joe Burrows" to the list of punishable offenses.

(12-28-2019, 06:42 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Appreciate you guys reeling it in a bit. It would be really easy for this place to become toxic after a 1 or 2 win season, and 4 years straight of losing. We get it, the team sucks, the family is the worst, but if that’s all the board is going to be it will get as miserable as the product on the field itself...

(12-29-2019, 04:04 AM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: Ironic you're the first to comment in this thread considering tactless and rude posts you've made to me on several occasions.

(12-29-2019, 01:47 AM)Nately120 Wrote: They won 3 playoff games and made it to the AFC Championship game.  Let's put things in perspective and admit that we would explode if we won so "little."