(09-27-2020, 07:59 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I don't think there was even a .005% chance that they were throwing to him there, to appease him. 

From what i recall of the Higgins pass, he had the ball in both hands and the DB just knocked it loose. 

(09-27-2020, 07:59 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I don't think there was even a .005% chance that they were throwing to him there, to appease him. 

From what i recall of the Higgins pass, he had the ball in both hands and the DB just knocked it loose. 

(09-27-2020, 08:58 PM)Whatever Wrote: He played 15 snaps and wasn't thrown to once in week 1.

He was a healthy scratch in week 2.

He then has his agent start whining and talking about demanding a trade if they don't utilize him more on offense.

He gets thrown to 5 times, including 3 looks in the end zone when he's locked down in coverage.

Zac can't be the warden if he's going to let the inmates run the asylum.  Tate can't cry to the media about being used more, then fail to win against man coverage.

(09-27-2020, 09:09 PM)Joelist Wrote: It was a bit of a bang bang play. The defender got his hand in there but he also was not looking at the ball which is usually supposed to be PI. 

(09-27-2020, 08:08 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Here's the kicker...he's never been a successful playcaller, nor a HC.
He must be an incredible used car salesperson to convince Mike Brown to allow him to have both roles.

(09-27-2020, 09:39 PM)JSR18 Wrote: I think you're barking up the wrong tree. I believe Katie and Mr. Imarriedintothis have mainly taken over day to day duties.

I know they and Tobin hired ZT...

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(09-27-2020, 09:39 PM)JSR18 Wrote: I think you're barking up the wrong tree. I believe Katie and Mr. Imarriedintothis have mainly taken over day to day duties.

I know they and Tobin hired ZT...

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(09-27-2020, 09:12 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I don't think it's fair to omit Ross' lack of production as a possible reason they decided to go another way. 

(09-27-2020, 11:21 PM)Skink4Prez Wrote: Wes Mantooth




I would lay all the blame there as well. Interesting anecdote...well I think it is interesting since it is mine...but it has to do with Katie as well as the hiring of Zac Taylor. My physician was a team doctor years ago, and I happened to be getting my annual physical with him in 2019 right at the time where Marvin was let go and Zac hadn't been hired yet. I asked him if he had any insight into who they might hire, and his answer was "The cheapest one." 

So as we continued talking, I told him I notice a lot of people on message boards and some of my friends hope that things will change when Katie takes over completely and Mike is out of the picture. I expressed my doubts that anything will change with her and He totally agreed. He said her and Mike are nice people, but everything is done on the cheap and Katie is her dad's daughter. 

As an example, he then tells me the story of one year working the draft combine. He tells me, "It's long boring days for the team doctors, and one of his colleagues went back to the hotel at the end of the day and dialed up a movie in his room...Not a porn movie, just a movie. Well a month later, this guy gets a bill from Katie for $6.99 or whatever the movie cost. Dude quit right then."

That convinced me that nothing is going to change until the team is sold to another owner. I really hope I am wrong and the spending this offseason is an indication of future dealings, but as he said, they hired the cheapest candidate and the cycle continues. I was as excited to see Burrow this year as I have been in any year which goes back to the Super Bowl years, but the way they blew off the line and then seeing how poorly they have played so far makes me think his talents will go to waste unless they decide to spend money on the staff and players he needs to support winning. 

(09-27-2020, 06:07 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: This dude is so far in over his head, and underqualified it's actually unbelievable.

I honestly don't think he could get an OC job at a top 100 college right now.  And he's currently pulling double duty as HC and OC for an NFL team.

The faster this turd sandwich is outta here the better.  What a freaking awful hire.  Clown show from a scheme and playcalling standpoint.

(09-27-2020, 11:40 PM)samhain Wrote: I hate to be reactionary, but I agree.  These guys are second rate.  Taylor rode McVey's coattails and the trend of hiring young qb-centric HC's.  Hiring him alone wasn't the worst thing in the world, but not giving him a proven, experienced staff was a big mistake.  McVey had Wade Phillips, a defensive genius and ex-HC to help him carry the weight of being a young HC.  Zac picked/was given Anarumo and Callahan.  Anarumo had done nothing of note in the league, and Callahan won with Peyton Manning, then went to Oakland to be average.  They were Zac's buddies.  I'd love to work with all of my best friends, but it likely wouldn't be optimal for productivity.  

Best case scenario if things continue down this road IMO is that we hire Joe Brady from Carolina in the offseason.  Brady is another inexperienced guy HC wise, but he's got a great rapport with the most important guy in the organization.  The other part of the scenario is Mike Zimmer being out in Minnesota.  Get him to be the DC and carry some weight for Brady.  Make it so.

My hope is that Burrow has the ear of ownership and gets a wide berth in voicing his views of what needs to be changed. He's already looking like a franchise savior even as he gets his brains beaten out every week.

(09-27-2020, 11:56 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Joe Brady would be a win/win. Probably a better play caller than Taylor, and it would make Burrow happy.

(09-27-2020, 06:18 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Keep in mind, Dave Shula actually won 8 games over his first two seasons.

Zack Taylor has about a 99% chance of having a worse start than the guy who parlayed his NFL career into being the GM at a Steakhouse franchise.  And not for nothing, but Taylor has way more talent than Shula had.

This dude is actually worse than Dave Shula.  Seriously.