(02-18-2021, 04:12 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Which is weird with him being so young honestly. Hopefully he can grow as a coach and start watching what Offenses like 
the Chiefs, Saints, Packers etc are doing... All we can do is hope.


Not much. Brought in Burrow with Tee, drafted Adeniji and brought in XSF.

They focused on the Defense last FA, hopefully they focus more on helping Burrow and the OL this FA while building up the 
trenches on both sides. Get up to speed with what teams that win the SB are doing. We need a pass rush and good blocking
offensively.

(02-19-2021, 10:24 AM)impactplaya Wrote: Heres a idea...if you draft the best SEC player from
2019 i.e Joe Burrow......then why not draft the best player
From the SEC in 2020 in Kyle Pitts?

It makes too much sense

(02-19-2021, 10:59 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: In before you get someone arguing that would be Devonta Smith...

Personally I think Pitts>Smith

(02-19-2021, 11:30 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I think Pitts>Chase>Smith.
I think that because there are so few truly elite TEs in the NFL compared to elite WRs.
I'd argue there are probably just 3 elite TEs nowadays - Kelce, Kittle, Waller. Hockenson and maybe Fant could be on their way, but not in that tier yet.
For WRs, I'd say there are...Hill, Hopkins, Adams, Diggs, Jones, Thomas, Evans, Allen at least. You could argue a handful of others are close, or at least in that category every couple of years or so.

(02-19-2021, 11:30 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I think Pitts>Chase>Smith.
I think that because there are so few truly elite TEs in the NFL compared to elite WRs.
I'd argue there are probably just 3 elite TEs nowadays - Kelce, Kittle, Waller. Hockenson and maybe Fant could be on their way, but not in that tier yet.
For WRs, I'd say there are...Hill, Hopkins, Adams, Diggs, Jones, Thomas, Evans, Allen at least. You could argue a handful of others are close, or at least in that category every couple of years or so.

(02-11-2021, 12:38 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I was watching the Orange and Black Insider guys last night, and they made a good point that AJ’s 104 targets have to go to someone next season. Might as well be Pitts instead of a WR3.

(02-19-2021, 11:16 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Last time Chase played, he had 84 catches and turned it into 1,780 yards and 20 TDs, and he did it with Burrow.

If they're not going to get an OL with the 5th overall, I don't see how Chase isn't the pick. No matter how great of a mismatch Pitts is, he's never going to put up ~1800/20.

(02-11-2021, 12:11 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Anyone who doesn't want Kyle Pitts either:
1) Undervalues his abilities
2) Thinks Bengals have good TEs now or optimism they'll get better
3) Don't think the Bengals will be able to incorporate TE well enough into the passing game

(02-19-2021, 11:16 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Last time Chase played, he had 84 catches and turned it into 1,780 yards and 20 TDs, and he did it with Burrow.

If they're not going to get an OL with the 5th overall, I don't see how Chase isn't the pick. No matter how great of a mismatch Pitts is, he's never going to put up ~1800/20.



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Side note...

I understand sitting out the COVID season entirely, but something rubs me the wrong way about Pitts playing part of the season. He puts up a big game against Alabama, and then quits before the Bowl Game, leaving his QB out to dry. He played long enough to get his before booking it, letting Trask flounder for 0 TD/3 INT on national TV.

It's not a huge deal, and it isn't the reasoning for my opinion on who to take, but it does rub me the wrong way a bit.

(02-19-2021, 11:47 PM)Synric Wrote: DeVonta Smith had 117/1856/23 why wouldnt you consider him over Ja'Marr Chase? Better yet the Bengals need better pass rushers and Gregory Rousseau had 54tkls/19.5 TFL/15.5 sacks...

(02-11-2021, 05:00 PM)Joelist Wrote: If you take Pitts without fixing the OL so the Tackles can play on islands it will be a bit pointless, as Pitts will be staying in to help the RT most downs.

(02-20-2021, 12:19 PM)kalibengal Wrote: I admit, I was not a fan of taking a TE this high but now after reading everything on Pitts, he looks like a once in a decade kind of TE....that said, if we can sign a FA Tackle like Darryl Williams im down with Pitts at #5. Burrow will have  a serious threat there and will open up the opportunities for all the WRs.   After watching how Kelce and Gronk tore it up in playoffs you know this is being discussed. 

(02-20-2021, 01:43 AM)CarolinaBengalFanGuy Wrote: I personally would like us to take either the Oregon T or the Alabama Heisman WR at 5. If both those guys are gone (And especially if a sought after QB falls to 5) then I am game to trade down and take a TE. Just not at 5 with who possibly may be available.

Oof that's a bit of a red flag for me honestly. I want fiery competitors all over the field. Not talented potential prima donnas.

(02-18-2021, 05:29 PM)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: Well, all that is true, but there’s still something you are forgetting about

(02-20-2021, 03:58 PM)ochocincos Wrote: No way do I sign DeVonta Smith over Kyle Pitts.
Pitts, to me, is head and shoulders above the other TEs and is a legit game changer.
I really don't see Smith being better than Chase or even Waddle, and I don't think he becomes a perennial Top 10 WR.
On the other hand, I see Pitts likely becoming a Top 5 TE.

(02-20-2021, 04:28 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Too damn thin at 175lbs. Kid looks like some stick pretzels put on football pads. I don't trust a WR that thin. He is 2.5" taller, but 15lbs lighter than John Ross. His legs look like toothpicks.

Chase is 33 pounds heavier on 1" less, and from what I read, runs about the same speed as Smith.

Defense is pointless until you...
A. Set up Burrow fully to grow and succeed.
B. Get rid of Anarumo, because no matter how good the rusher is, they won't put up stats under him and he will likely ruin them.

(02-20-2021, 04:28 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Too damn thin at 175lbs. Kid looks like some stick pretzels put on football pads. I don't trust a WR that thin. He is 2.5" taller, but 15lbs lighter than John Ross. His legs look like toothpicks.

Chase is 33 pounds heavier on 1" less, and from what I read, runs about the same speed as Smith.

Defense is pointless until you...
A. Set up Burrow fully to grow and succeed.
B. Get rid of Anarumo, because no matter how good the rusher is, they won't put up stats under him and he will likely ruin them.

(02-19-2021, 11:16 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Last time Chase played, he had 84 catches and turned it into 1,780 yards and 20 TDs, and he did it with Burrow.

If they're not going to get an OL with the 5th overall, I don't see how Chase isn't the pick. No matter how great of a mismatch Pitts is, he's never going to put up ~1800/20.



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Side note...

I understand sitting out the COVID season entirely, but something rubs me the wrong way about Pitts playing part of the season. He puts up a big game against Alabama, and then quits before the Bowl Game, leaving his QB out to dry. He played long enough to get his before booking it, letting Trask flounder for 0 TD/3 INT on national TV.

It's not a huge deal, and it isn't the reasoning for my opinion on who to take, but it does rub me the wrong way a bit.

(02-21-2021, 01:16 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Chad was what 6’1” about 185lbs.

Tyreek is 5’10” listed at 185lbs.

I bet Devonta weighs in right around there at his pro day.

Watch him. He takes some massive shots and gets right back up. I was stunned when watching one of his games when he trucked somebody. That’s probably when I changed my opinion of him. He isn’t going to pancake anybody but he will block his man out of the play too.