(04-13-2021, 07:36 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Saw somewhere that said PFF has 9 sacks attributed to Joe Burrow.

So ~28% of the sacks Burrow took were his own fault according to them. The OL was terrible and I don't like Taylor's offense, but that's way too many unnecessary sacks taken by a QB. 

Hopefully it was just him being a rookie and he cleans it up rather than following the Andrew Luck path.

(04-13-2021, 06:12 PM)ochocincos Wrote: And when looking at his 2020 injury, I wouldn't really say it's because he's "injury prone."

(04-13-2021, 10:58 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I’m with you on taking Chase, but if we don’t go OL in the 2nd we riot.

(04-13-2021, 10:57 PM)PDub80 Wrote: ^ Brilliance and makes me even more on team Chase. Not even a single doubt in my mind at this point.

I wouldn't even be made w a RB, TE, Edge, or whatever in the 2nd and then someone like Creed Humphry in the 3rd, or the OT, Hudson from UC. Lots of options. Some of these top O line guys will fall out of round 2 into the 3rd or even 4th. It is a DEEP O line class.

(04-13-2021, 11:07 PM)PDub80 Wrote: That Cleveland G looks outstanding as well for a 2nd rounder. And the Bengals love their Bulldogs. I would do backflips for a Chase, Cleveland, Humphry 1st 3 rounds. 

I think a stud center is still in need with Hopkins being hurt. Hell, the C from Alabama was doing cartwheels to photobomb proday interviews. If he's there in the 4th or 5th... grab that dude... Humphry seems like he will be gone by the 3rd.

(04-13-2021, 11:25 PM)Joelist Wrote: This would be a good draft to double dip on the OL. Especially if they go Chase in Rd 1 then go OL in both 2 and 3.

(04-13-2021, 10:57 PM)PDub80 Wrote: ^ Brilliance and makes me even more on team Chase. Not even a single doubt in my mind at this point.

I wouldn't even be made w a RB, TE, Edge, or whatever in the 2nd and then someone like Creed Humphry in the 3rd, or the OT, Hudson from UC. Lots of options. Some of these top O line guys will fall out of round 2 into the 3rd or even 4th. It is a DEEP O line class.

(04-13-2021, 11:33 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: I can't see them doing that.

If the OL is bad enough in their eyes that they need to go back to back on it, they can't pass on Sewell. Makes no sense, you don't pass on the best player at a position of need that ranks top 5 on the board at 5 if you are that worried about the group to go there two times in a row.

Chase
Edge/DI
OL

That'll be the move. Only way they'd go OL twice in the first 3 rounds is if they went Sewell, Marshall/Brown/Toney, then OL again.

(04-13-2021, 11:47 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: I must have missed the clip with Chase playing OL?

X started and played in all 16 games once in his career.
Jonah hasn't proven he can stay healthy.
Reiff is a one year rental.
Spain was cut and picked up off the street and is back on a 1 year deal.
Our C is coming off a major knee injury



Unless you are ready to move on from Burrow after this year there is no excuse to not invest our resources to build a studly OL that can protect our best chance of winning this year and in the foreseeable future. Right now we have one of those tiny band-aids covering a bleeding wound that needs at least 3 stitches.

The whole world knows we need OL. Everyone brags this is a good OL class. So we want to wait and pick from the left over scraps? No thanks. Give me some top guys from the strong class.

(04-13-2021, 11:19 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Deep with potential.

I really like Hudson but from watching all of UC's games this season he isn't going to be ready to step in and play at the NFL level without some work and might be better at RT.

Ben Cleveland from Georgia in three is a interesting name and might be good but will he be BPA at 69? Think he's shown just inside the top 100 usually, I know PFF has him at 95th overall. 

Creed is a good pick in 3, but most mocks have him going before our 3rd and you can't reach at 38 for him. The one knock on him is that he struggles with big bodied bull rushers...which... isn't ideal with this division.


The more I read and see... the more I see them waiting till round 3 maybe even 4 before they address the line which is absolutely stupid...which is exactly why it will happen. 

But hey, at least we'll have a new toy....

(04-14-2021, 12:02 AM)PDub80 Wrote: Carson had a top 5 O line and got his knee brutalized as well. No guarantees. It all depends on how the draft falls.

(04-13-2021, 11:56 PM)Joelist Wrote: The problem is the EDGE class this year is substandard. 

With the signing of Reiff we actually have a decent starting OL 5 of Jonah, XSF, Hopkins, Spain, Reiff. Last year even saddled with Hart once we had both Spain and XSF out there at the same time the line play improved pretty dramatically - the stats on that are in multiple other threads here.  The big issue is the cupboard behind these guys is pretty bare and needs to be restocked with actual talent and not trash like Redmond and MJ. Hence double dipping in 2 and 3 (assuming Chase) helps that issue a lot. 

(04-14-2021, 12:10 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: In a playoff game.

Where his top 3 weapons were a 2nd rounder, 3rd rounder, and 7th rounder.

(04-14-2021, 12:14 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Yup... the best WR in Bengals history (stats wise and probably just in general) was drafted in round 2.

(04-14-2021, 12:24 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: And the best olineman on the Bengals teams that saw the most sustained stretch of success in franchise history was a 2nd rounder...

We can keep going around and around on this stuff forever.

(04-14-2021, 12:24 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Munoz was not a 2nd rounder

(04-14-2021, 12:27 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Yeah that was a lot of qualifiers just to make it someone not named Munoz.

(04-14-2021, 12:31 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Yeah except there is no qualifier anyone can put out there to say that Munoz isn't the greatest we've ever had, this team has been in two Super Bowls, he was the anchor on the line for both. 

It's just silliness.

In the end people need to look at it like this... would you rather have a guy that might be Munoz or a guy that might be Green.

To me... that's easy.