(05-01-2021, 11:16 PM)Benton Wrote:  There's some exciting prospects, but none of the OL drafted is better than what we've got.

(05-01-2021, 11:16 PM)Benton Wrote: We didn't do bad overall, we got some nice picks in multiple spots.

But our biggest need was OL. What won't we see in 2021? Much playing time from the OL guys we just drafted. There's some exciting prospects, but none of the OL drafted is better than what we've got. In a couple seasons, I think the guys we drafted have a chance of being pretty good, but we are rolling with the line we had a week ago.

On top of that, there's still the Jonah issue (the issue of him not being able to protect Burrow from his couch).

For down the road? Probably a very, very good draft. For people looking to see great strides in 2021? Meh.

But I think it locks Zac in to at least 1.5 more years. If the #1 need is an OL and you take a handful of OL projects/hometown ticket sales, you can't really fault the staff when it doesn't work out.

(05-01-2021, 08:43 PM)Bronxbengal Wrote: Saying they dominated is a bit to much.  The draft was average


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(05-01-2021, 08:47 PM)OSUfan Wrote: Being someone that believes in building thru the trenches I really like this draft. Coach Taylor really hit the nail on the head when he addressed in the post draft news conference. When they had players go down they were not equipped to with a deep enough bench to help overcome it. They made serious moves to correct that situation.

I think they did a fantastic job. Not sexy by any means but a draft that could help for several seasons to come.

(05-02-2021, 01:35 AM)Bengal Dude Wrote: As for Carman, I'm just meh on the pick. Don't hate it, don't love it. I know some are hyping him up as some badass player. I would like it if he became an amazing guard, but we know the Bengals don't value guards. So he'll play out his 4 year deal and then walk. That would piss me off. 

(05-02-2021, 09:46 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Of course it is impossible to judge a draft before anyone plays but here are my comments.

-Doesn't matter who you wanted at #5 you have to admit that we got an elite talent with Chase

-I like the fact that we traded down for extra 4th round picks.

-Fifth round picks are all "projects" except kickers and punters.  So hopefully we got an elite level player there.  However it seems to me that place kickers are hard to project college success to NFL.  That seems strange because it seems like they would be the easiest.  Their success does not depend on players around them or coaching.

-Best part was that we really loaded up on linemen.  I am the type that believes winning in the  trenches is crucial for both defense and offense.

(05-01-2021, 11:16 PM)Benton Wrote: We didn't do bad overall, we got some nice picks in multiple spots.

But our biggest need was OL. What won't we see in 2021? Much playing time from the OL guys we just drafted. There's some exciting prospects, but none of the OL drafted is better than what we've got. In a couple seasons, I think the guys we drafted have a chance of being pretty good, but we are rolling with the line we had a week ago.

On top of that, there's still the Jonah issue (the issue of him not being able to protect Burrow from his couch).

For down the road? Probably a very, very good draft. For people looking to see great strides in 2021? Meh.

But I think it locks Zac in to at least 1.5 more years. If the #1 need is an OL and you take a handful of OL projects/hometown ticket sales, you can't really fault the staff when it doesn't work out.

(05-02-2021, 09:45 AM)PDub80 Wrote: More crying? Aren't you a grown man?

BTW, Detroit Free Press gave the lion's pick of Sewell an F on draft night. They needed skill position guys badly and they said the player was great, but the positional need made it a horrible pick.

You should go be a Lions fan instead of piss and moaning around here.

(05-02-2021, 10:06 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: To me this sums it up when you look at what we have done in acquiring new players for our Oline we have acquired more Dline (6) vs Oline (4) with the majority of our Dline picked higher than our Oline so NOPE they did not complete the mission of restructure and prioritize the Oline.

(05-02-2021, 09:50 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Possibly. I'm not sure when that injury occurred, exactly. 

(05-02-2021, 10:29 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Bengals offense ranked 26th in sacks allowed while the defense ranked DEAD LAST in sacks.  Our defense was horrible.  Yet we still drafted and O-lineman before we took a pass rusher.

This idea that the Bengals should have spent every dollar in free agency and every draft pick on O-line while ignoring one of the worst defenses in the league is just silly.

(05-02-2021, 10:36 AM)Spider Wrote: Injuries and the drama created by Carlos factored in on how the defense operated last season..
There is talent ed players on the defense... They need to Gel and trust/learn each other.. Should be a huge improvement this year

(05-02-2021, 10:46 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: We say that we should have a great pass rush each year, and it never happens.  That goes way back before ZT arrived.  I hope the emphasis on pass rushers and quality depth on the line has a big impact.  

Anarumo now has players that fit the scheme he wants to run better than ever, so it is truly a "no excuses"-type season.  I wish they had gone all in before last year and gotten something (more than what they did) for the likes of Dunlap, Geno, AJ, and WJIII....a true overhaul instead of the half-assed version.  BUT, that being said, it put the Bengals in place to get Chase at #5, and  THIS year they really turned over the roster.

There are very few of the "old guard" still around and most is guys like Huber.  I think that the revamped offensive line (that actually was decent down the line when XSF and Spain were playing guard), a more aggressive defense, and Burrow with one of the best young WR corps in the league will be a very exciting season.  Not going to be easy, as the Browns nailed their draft and are loaded, and Baltimore always seems to stay competitive, but it will be exciting for sure.  

(05-02-2021, 10:29 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Bengals offense ranked 26th in sacks allowed while the defense ranked DEAD LAST in sacks.  Our defense was horrible.  Yet we still drafted and O-lineman before we took a pass rusher.

This idea that the Bengals should have spent every dollar in free agency and every draft pick on O-line while ignoring one of the worst defenses in the league is just silly.

(05-02-2021, 10:46 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: We say that we should have a great pass rush each year, and it never happens.  That goes way back before ZT arrived.  I hope the emphasis on pass rushers and quality depth on the line has a big impact.  

Anarumo now has players that fit the scheme he wants to run better than ever, so it is truly a "no excuses"-type season.  I wish they had gone all in before last year and gotten something (more than what they did) for the likes of Dunlap, Geno, AJ, and WJIII....a true overhaul instead of the half-assed version.  BUT, that being said, it put the Bengals in place to get Chase at #5, and  THIS year they really turned over the roster.

There are very few of the "old guard" still around and most is guys like Huber.  I think that the revamped offensive line (that actually was decent down the line when XSF and Spain were playing guard), a more aggressive defense, and Burrow with one of the best young WR corps in the league will be a very exciting season.  Not going to be easy, as the Browns nailed their draft and are loaded, and Baltimore always seems to stay competitive, but it will be exciting for sure.  

(05-02-2021, 10:29 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Bengals offense ranked 26th in sacks allowed while the defense ranked DEAD LAST in sacks.  Our defense was horrible.  Yet we still drafted and O-lineman before we took a pass rusher.

This idea that the Bengals should have spent every dollar in free agency and every draft pick on O-line while ignoring one of the worst defenses in the league is just silly.

(05-02-2021, 11:52 AM)BengalFanInNJ Wrote: Let's be honest, NOBODY knows how good these players are going to be for another 2-3 years. Right now, I think this draft is a B- based purely on my expectations from these picks as well as whom was available at the time that I thought was better than the pick the Bengals made. For instance, I think Kendrick Green is going to be an immediate starter. Unfortunately, it's going to be for the Steelers. The Trey Hill pick was solid though. This is just one of the comparisons I will be looking at in the next couple of years, just like we all did with Ragnow vs Price. In any event, we won't know for a few years so anything said about how good or bad this draft haul is is purely a guess.

I will say that I feel a lot more comfortable with the Defensive Ends we have right now (including Ossai in this group). Ossai, Sample and Wyatt Hubert will help out almost immediately and I think Hubert may be a huge steal.