(10-04-2022, 11:39 AM)higgy100 Wrote: I assume you're talking about Perrine against the Jets? I did state last week that also one of the big reasons Perrine shined against the Jets is that they were also trying to strip the ball from him which is very common in this league when offenses are rather challenged and against the wall late in a game. Still, he ran hard, gained confidence and stays much lower to the ground than Mixon does (who runs straight up) and Perrine accelerates much faster into the hole. He's alot harder to find for the DL.

(10-04-2022, 11:39 AM)higgy100 Wrote: I assume you're talking about Perrine against the Jets? I did state last week that also one of the big reasons Perrine shined against the Jets is that they were also trying to strip the ball from him which is very common in this league when offenses are rather challenged and against the wall late in a game. Still, he ran hard, gained confidence and stays much lower to the ground than Mixon does (who runs straight up) and Perrine accelerates much faster into the hole. He's alot harder to find for the DL.

(10-04-2022, 10:26 AM)Wyche Wrote: Yes, I heard exactly what you pointed out on the radio yesterday. It's epic bad. My hope is that this meeting and film session they had together bears a little fruit. He had all of the linemen, backs, and TEs over to his house to go over what he was expecting and what his blockers were expecting. This isn't the first time he's done this. Remember a few years ago when he was struggling, then turned on the rest of the year? He did the same thing then. Sure hope it works again.



Right, you just can't go through the motions. I watched a little of last night's game, and what stood out now that I've read this thread is how both teams do exactly what you say we should be doing. I noticed a lot of similar plays that we run, but with better execution at the point of attack, and better play fakes.

(10-04-2022, 11:46 AM)Mer Wrote: I have to disagree with your statement about Mixon running straight up. Watch him as he approaches the line with the ball. He leans forward. I'm assuming it's because he's thinking he's going to run head on into someone and then be able to keep his balance but in reality he normal gets hit on his side and therefore has no balance and just falls over. The great running backs all had great balance and were able to overcome someone grabbing at their feet or they'd bounce off a tackler coming from their side. Mixon just falls down. No body control at all.

I may also be focusing more on short yardage and goal line with my statements.

(10-04-2022, 11:55 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I believe you're onto something here. There's many plays where Joe Mixon's body posture is just well..bad. He looks like he's going to fall down before any D player even touches him.

(10-04-2022, 12:03 PM)Mer Wrote: Sometimes, to me, it looks like he's not even trying to get any yards. Just looking for the first guy to hit him so he can go down. A couple of our goal-to-go downs looked really bad last game. 

(10-04-2022, 12:04 PM)Wyche Wrote: He missed a huge hole down there Thursday night.

(10-04-2022, 12:03 PM)Mer Wrote: Sometimes, to me, it looks like he's not even trying to get any yards. Just looking for the first guy to hit him so he can go down. A couple of our goal-to-go downs looked really bad last game. 

(10-04-2022, 12:08 PM)Mer Wrote: I'm not sure if this is the one you're talking about, but on one play all he had to do was side step left and he could have walked into the endzone. Instead he leaned forward, ran into the pile, and fell down as usual.

I should probably stop ripping on him so much. Hopefully he'll turn it around soon and I'll be right back on the bandwagon.

(10-03-2022, 03:55 PM)Au165 Wrote: I said a week or two ago, what does Joe Mixon do above average? Vision, speed, strength, ability to break tackles, catch, pass protect....does he do any singular one of those things at an elite level? Maybe the argument is he does a couple slightly above average but at the end of the day I just don't think he is a large improvement over any other back in the league.

With great blocking he could be a good back. In reality, analytics tell us that most running success is a function of blocking. What separates great backs from average ones is how they can create for themselves. Joe Mixon can't create for himself and so at this point we are limited by the blocking he, or any back we put out there, gets.

(10-04-2022, 01:19 PM)Joelist Wrote: Mixon got a lot of people riled especially after the Miami game because they could see the holes and he ran right past them, or tripped a lot. He left at least one TD and at least 75 yards of rush on the field. This right after they saw Perine run behind the same line against the Jets for 5 YPC.

(10-09-2022, 02:10 PM)michaelsean Wrote: On his second run, Chubb just ran for more yards and TDs than Mixon will all night.

(10-09-2022, 02:10 PM)michaelsean Wrote: On his second run, Chubb just ran for more yards and TDs than Mixon will all night.

(10-09-2022, 02:12 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Saw that he's so good at making people miss.

(10-09-2022, 04:43 PM)Nepa Wrote: And running through people. The announcers also said he often does it against stacked boxes. 

The announcers also said that Cleveland had the most diverse running scheme in the NFL. So you have Chubb, and Hunt, and good schemes.