(10-01-2023, 10:31 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Sure, but even with a two legged Burrow last year there were plenty calls for Pollack to be replaced last season/offseason. 

He has drafted nobody good, he has developed nobody. He has contributed Billy Price, Jackson Carman, and Cordell Volson to this team. It seems like they change or talk about changing blocking scheme 3 times each year for the last 3 years.

Guy stinks.

(10-01-2023, 10:17 PM)GodFather Wrote: This team is a mess. It's the biggest disappointment I can think of as a Bengal fan heading into the season with huge expectations. We haven't scored a TD yet in the first half through 4 games and the odds of going to the playoffs at 1-3 WITH an injured Burrow? Next to nil..

We could make a book out of the things wrong. Play calling, preparation for a game knowing your putting a QB with zero mobility on the field and defenses ready to blitz him every chance they get and on and on..

But one of the many glaring issues is the coaching for the offensive line. Frank Pollack has been here years and this OL never looked good in any iteration he has coached. Why is he still here? We pickup Brown this offseason, move Williams to the right side and on paper have a solid OL. Not the best but certainly not what we've experienced this first quarter of the season. And yet...he is still here.. the man who wants glass eaters and instead has produced a bunch of ass eaters.

Why isn't something being done about this? Taylors play calling is atrocious and blaming Burrows injury on that is a cop out. Adjust this isn't a new injury. These dinks are a joke and a Pee Wee football team could adjust to the plays called by Zac and company. I won't even get into Zac because he's not going anywhere. Hell Marvin didn't win a playoff game and was here years past his welcome.

So, I'll focus on Pollack, why wont the Bengals see the big issue here and make the change now? It can't get worse.

(10-03-2023, 10:07 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: That’s so naive even for you the most naive person on here.

(10-03-2023, 10:35 AM)kevin Wrote: Lets face it, what you are really saying is fire Coach Taylor.  That was a bandwagon many were on before the back to back AFC Championship Game seasons.  

I'll tell you why the Bengals don't change coaches as much as say the Cleveland Browns.  The Cleveland Browns change coaches and quarterbacks a lot over the last 20 some years, and the result is they don't win.  

It would be foolish to even consider changing Coach Taylor or acting GM Duke Tobin after back to back AFC Championship Game seasons.  They have the say in who their coaches are, not the fickle fans.  

(10-03-2023, 10:40 AM)Brownshoe Wrote: Before Burrow and Katie stepping into a bigger role Zac had 2 and 4 game winning seasons. That's worse than the last couple years of marvin ROFL

(10-03-2023, 11:33 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: And the aging vets and roster sucked.

(10-03-2023, 11:57 AM)Brownshoe Wrote: That sucky roster did twice as good under marvin the previous two years compared to the next two under Zac. We had more than a few good vets still on the team too.

(10-03-2023, 10:07 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: That’s so naive even for you the most naive person on here.

(10-03-2023, 01:01 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: I'm a Bengals' fan, not a Sooner's fan here for the former Sooners. I've been here more than a day. We have previously reviewed the changes that have occurred over the past several years that are way above Zac Taylor's pay grade such as free agency spending. Spending on stadium improvements. Ring of Honor. Indoor practice facility. More amenable to draft trades.  Etcetera. Taylor isn't responsible for any of that.  Ownership is. Specifically, Katie Blackburn.  Taylor is the beneficiary.  Taylor doesn't dictate to ownership how they spend their money.  Period.  Believing otherwise is naive.


And without a healthy Top 3 NFL QB, Taylor is a sub .500 play caller who makes questionable decisions like leaving said injured Top 3 NFL QB in the game during the 4th quarter when the game is out of hand exposing him to potential further injury.

(10-03-2023, 12:43 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: The good news is Taylor will have 5 more years at 8 million to prove you wrong

(10-03-2023, 01:16 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Zac Taylor had plenty to do with revamping the roster and winning 3-4 from Reid/Mahomes and beating the Bills in the playoffs. Suggesting otherwise is stupid. And Taylor isn’t a Sooner

(10-03-2023, 01:16 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Zac Taylor had plenty to do with revamping the roster and winning 3-4 from Reid/Mahomes and beating the Bills in the playoffs. Suggesting otherwise is stupid. And Taylor isn’t a Sooner

(01-25-2023, 01:26 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: I’m a neophyte Bengals fan. Just became one with the Zac Taylor regime and of course my Sooners Joe Mixon and Samaje Perine. 

(10-03-2023, 01:35 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Oh God, that would be a nightmare for all bengaldom if Taylor is here that long. 


Actually it's Duke Tobin thats done that to the roster and it's always been known that Tobin has been in charge of that. Idk why you act like beating KC is like winning the SB when that's actually what they do. With a hurt Mahomes no less. We couldn't even win that layup of a SB vs the Rams due to being out coached.

(10-03-2023, 02:13 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: I never claimed Taylor wasn't involved.  I just don't give all the credit to Taylor as you do.  Again, without the change in their free agency approach since the dawn of free agency, the Bengals aren't as competitive as they have been.  That's due to Katie, not Zac Taylor.  Without Burrow, Zac Taylor isn't 4-1 in the games you referenced. 

Taylor is from Norman, OK, right? One of the reasons you're here, right?

(10-03-2023, 02:44 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Well you are woefully ill informed. Zac and Duke equally involved in the draft.

(10-03-2023, 10:35 AM)kevin Wrote: I'll tell you why the Bengals don't change coaches as much as say the Cleveland Browns.  The Cleveland Browns change coaches and quarterbacks a lot over the last 20 some years, and the result is they don't win.  

(10-03-2023, 02:58 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: You realize that Tobin is literally the person in charge of stuff like that? Zac definitely has a voice in it, but the final say is Tobin/Katie

(10-03-2023, 03:09 PM)PhilHos Wrote: You honestly think that if Zac says, "Don't get that guy" that Tobin and Katie would still get that guy? GTFOH

(10-03-2023, 10:35 AM)kevin Wrote: Lets face it, what you are really saying is fire Coach Taylor.  That was a bandwagon many were on before the back to back AFC Championship Game seasons.