(01-18-2024, 04:45 PM)depthchart Wrote: I agree with the side of the coin that you are showing.

This is why I believe the Bengals must be very careful with any decision to Trade TEE.

Marvin Harrison Jr should be a safe replacement. Rome Odunze or Malik Nabers would likely do well. Gets riskier after that.

Could Trade up and get Brock Bowers TE then shift some catches to the Tight ends to help offset TEE leaving.

Could get a Top OT with a Trade up say Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State then Draft WR later and hit Free Agency for a veteran WR.

This is why I tend to want to either keep TEE for 2024 or use him in a Trade Up to get something of Quality to offset his loss.

I doubt that I would just Trade TEE for say a 2nd round pick just to save Money in 2024.

A TEE departure would need to be carefully Planned or else just keep him for 2024 at the least.

(01-17-2024, 05:30 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: The source is a random poster that I don't know from a Bengals Facebook group that I'm in, so it's reliable



It just says that the rumor is that "definitely wants to stay in Cinci" and that he'll most likely tag him. There won't be a new deal until the tag expires but both sides would like to work on a deal.

That makes sense for him because, with Chasing being up for a new deal this offseason, they're likely not going to give two big receivers big contracts at once when we're so close to getting over the hump and the money could be spent elsewhere and on the other extensions, especially Chase.

Not much but hopefully it's somewhat true because, if Higgins is saying he's ok with it this soon, the offseason will go a lot more smoothly!

(01-18-2024, 12:32 PM)depthchart Wrote: I don't see the impossibility of using TEE in a Trade up.

Just a year ago many Analysts, Former GM's etc were saying that they believe TEE could be a #1 wide receiver.

I would bet that many still believe that he can handle a #1 role and/or be a Top #2 receiver on a Team.

It only takes one Team to want TEE and also like a player at pick #18 probably at another position. (They get 2 players TEE & #18)

If TEE becomes an Un-tagged Free Agent wide receiver right now, I believe he would be one of the Top guys. Only 25 years old.

There is Value there that can be used to gain something and there should be a few Teams lining up to pay TEE.  - IMO

(01-18-2024, 08:04 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: I think in this particular situation, Tee would not mine a franchise tag.  If the Bengals were not planning on signing him to LT contract, they most certainly will tag of some sort.  It would not surprise me if the Bengals sign Chase to LT deal instead.

(01-18-2024, 07:58 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Impossible absolutely not. Improbable very much so. Tee wants to stay they want him to stay. They will tag him IMO and try to work the puzzle. I expect he will play in ‘24 and if they don’t work a deal draft his successor in ‘25 draft. In earlier discussions trading him to move up to the single digits is tough. One we hate trades and giving up picks. Most teams if they need a WR picking single digits will try to get Marvin Harrison or Odunze. Saves them a ton of money.

(01-18-2024, 08:33 PM)casear2727 Wrote: They tried to sign Tee to a long term deal before the season, but the numbers were not high enough for him and his agent, this according to a source.

(01-17-2024, 07:24 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Disagree.

At his peak Chad was the best WR in the NFL over a 3 year span. Chase is great, but he's never been the best in the NFL even one year (there's still time for him to do so).

Housh was putting up the same type of numbers as Tee  despite being in a less passing-friendly time (2005 there were only 2 QBs with 4,000+ yards and 0 with 4,200+ yards) and also in a time when you would absolutely get murdered going across the middle by Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Troy Polamalu, and James Harrison and there wasn't a flag you'd just get put on an ESPN highlight reel of getting Jacked Up. Tee would fall apart if he had to play in the '00s AFCN... unless you mean the very start of Housh's career, in which case sure, the 33rd pick started better than the 7th round 204th pick. Lol

I think we can also all agree that Burrow is better than Palmer, too.

(01-18-2024, 10:19 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Here is where i differ. I totally believe Chase and Tee are a better combo early in their first years playing together than Chad and TJ... the key is raising their game, that is what Chad and TJ did in their like 4-8 years into the NFL..

(01-18-2024, 10:32 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Chad and TJ had Jon Kitna as their QB for their first 3 years though.

(01-18-2024, 09:53 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Was that via your bat phone ? I’m kidding you did it first. And I believe you at least.

(01-19-2024, 03:17 AM)casear2727 Wrote: I dont mind sharing.  Everyone knows DJ Reader and my son are friends.  This is a guy I chat with on twitter, I know he has been to the family lounge after games although I did not meet him there.  Not sure if he is a friend or relative of Higgins but he is close.  According to him the offer was around 20M over 4, said Tee was told he could get better. 

I think he is correct but, I also think that was a very fair offer.

(01-19-2024, 03:17 AM)casear2727 Wrote: I dont mind sharing.  Everyone knows DJ Reader and my son are friends.  This is a guy I chat with on twitter, I know he has been to the family lounge after games although I did not meet him there.  Not sure if he is a friend or relative of Higgins but he is close.  According to him the offer was around 20M over 4, said Tee was told he could get better. 

I think he is correct but, I also think that was a very fair offer.

(01-19-2024, 03:17 AM)casear2727 Wrote: I dont mind sharing.  Everyone knows DJ Reader and my son are friends.  This is a guy I chat with on twitter, I know he has been to the family lounge after games although I did not meet him there.  Not sure if he is a friend or relative of Higgins but he is close.  According to him the offer was around 20M over 4, said Tee was told he could get better. 

I think he is correct but, I also think that was a very fair offer.

(01-18-2024, 10:32 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Chad and TJ had Jon Kitna as their QB for their first 3 years though.

(01-19-2024, 09:58 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: I’m not doubting you a bit. A funny story. I had a tire shop in a small town in Oklahoma that was a customer of mine. I was waiting on the owner. In the lobby two old friends talking. I hear their conversation. One guy asks the other how his son is and if we was still working with strength and conditioning for the Clippers. He said yes. But he said he’s going to Houston with Chris Paul who was in free agency. My young friend follows the NBA on Twitter and is obsessed. So I sent a group text Chris Paul was going to Houston. My friend said you want me to believe with no mention of Houston as a landing spot for Chris Paul anywhere on the internet you heard it in a tire shop? No way I believe you. Next day Gene Wojanowski of ESPN announced it. But DJ is one of the most highest character players on the team and there’s a bunch. Good guy for your son to be friends with. My buddies and I laugh as when I tell them some news they say you been hanging out at your tire shop again lol.

(01-18-2024, 01:53 PM)PCB Bengal Fan Wrote: Those college guys don't have to play in the NFL if they don't like the CBA.

(01-19-2024, 10:59 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: And Scott Mitchell.

And Akili

And Frerotte

Bolsters your argument, if anything lol


Can you get me Falken Wildpeak A/T Trails in 225/55/17R for a decent price and send them up to Canada?

(01-18-2024, 04:10 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: That seems ligical but misses the point. 

Tee gets less targets because of Chase. The #1 guy on other teams is likely gonna get more targets/yards than any #2. I mean, Curry's PPG went down when the Dubs signed Durant, was Steph less valuable? No. 

Plus, Tee averaged well over 1,000 yards his first 3 years. Over 1,000 the two where Burrow was healthy. And put up 100 per game (close to it) when Chase was out. 

And making Thielen the comparison and then saying age does not matter is flat out silly. He is ancient, HIS contract is certainly affected by it. 

Tee is 20th in the league the last 4 years in receiving yards. 19th amongst WRs (Kelce). And that is sans Burrow for a full year of that time. Plus, of those 19, only 3 have played fewer than Tee's 58 games (Chase, Kupp, Keenan Allen). 

He is a top 15-20 WR. Yeah, the tag is a bit of an overpay (average of top 10), but not a lot. #15 makes $18.3 mil. It starts dropping quickly after that. #19 is $16.1 mil (Hunter Renfrow).