(03-25-2024, 04:49 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Trading Tee makes sense and I hope it happens, but at the same time we have an invincible FO, so I wouldn't be surprised if they ask for too much and then sit on Tee knowing that they aren't going to get fired for passing on a fair deal that would have gotten done (see the non-trade of AJ McCarron to the Browns).  If Hue Jackson were still in the NFL, I'd have more confidence a trade gets done, but there is no reason Mike Brown and company don't ask for the moon for Tee...maybe they get it, but no consequences if they don't.

(03-25-2024, 04:03 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: KC’s offense was appreciably worse and poor WR play contributed. They’ve adjusted in FA. Their defense bailed them out at least this year but their reckoning is coming

(03-25-2024, 04:54 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I know our fans overestimate some of our players, but the coaches and FO are probably worse.

Tee if anything is overrated, nothing against the guy either. He has nice size and is really good at blocking out Defenders on the 
sideline (when he is healthy). Heck Iosivas might be able to do this for us.

(03-25-2024, 04:54 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I know our fans overestimate some of our players, but the coaches and FO are probably worse.

Tee if anything is overrated, nothing against the guy either. He has nice size and is really good at blocking out Defenders on the 
sideline (when he is healthy). Heck Iosivas might be able to do this for us.

(03-25-2024, 04:52 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Whenever I hear "right" offer, I think it has to be high enough for the Bengals to be willing to sacrifice potential 2024 impact.
So in my mind, it's likely gotta be a 1st rounder in 2024, or an early 2nd rounder in 2024 or 1st rounder in 2025 at worst.

If I'm Arizona, I'm strongly considering trading my 27th or 34th for Higgins, especially if I miss out on Harrison and Odunze somehow before 4th overall.
Things could also get crazy with Arizona if they take a QB at 4, as they likely will have a pick of either Williams, Maye, or Daniels.
But they have a pretty big need for WR for their offense, as they only have Michael Wilson and Chris Moore, neither of which is a true WR1.
Putting Higgins with either Kyler Murray or a new rookie would help out that offense a lot.

(03-25-2024, 05:02 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I've pointed out before that having an invincible GM and FO is a double edged sword. On one hand, they aren't going to make panic signings and trades and figure "I'm getting fired anyways, so if this doesn't work the next guy will have to deal with it" but they can also play the "overpay me for player X or I'll just say no and I'll still have a job no matter what happens, but you might not" card.

Regardless of what Tee's actual value is in a real sense, if you are dealing with Mike Brown you are at a disadvantage because he can walk away from any deal and you can't.

(03-25-2024, 05:04 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: Tee isnt overrated, he is appropriately rated.  He is a top 20 WR in the league, which is why the conversation of late first early second is happening.  If he was a top 5, they could get just about anything for him.

If he wasn’t a top 20, trade chatter wouldn’t even be happening.

(03-25-2024, 03:51 PM)CJD Wrote: If the Patriots are offering #34 + #68, I'd be awfully tempted to accept that trade.

(03-25-2024, 05:07 PM)J24 Wrote: Even if the Cardinals draft a WR at 4 you could make a sincere argument that Tee makes sense for them. A Tee/ Nabers duo would be impressive!
Plus they have 6  picks in the top 100 and 3 in the top 50!

(03-25-2024, 04:52 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Whenever I hear "right" offer, I think it has to be high enough for the Bengals to be willing to sacrifice potential 2024 impact.
So in my mind, it's likely gotta be a 1st rounder in 2024, or an early 2nd rounder in 2024 or 1st rounder in 2025 at worst.

If I'm Arizona, I'm strongly considering trading my 27th or 34th for Higgins, especially if I miss out on Harrison and Odunze somehow before 4th overall.
Things could also get crazy with Arizona if they take a QB at 4, as they likely will have a pick of either Williams, Maye, or Daniels.
But they have a pretty big need for WR for their offense, as they only have Michael Wilson and Chris Moore, neither of which is a true WR1.
Putting Higgins with either Kyler Murray or a new rookie would help out that offense a lot.

(03-25-2024, 05:43 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: IF we were gonna trade Higgins, we should have done so before FA, when that extra $22 mil could have done some good.

IDK, Reader + Fuller maybe? Wilkins instead of Rankins?

Doing it now would be admitting you have bungled the contract sutuation so bad he won't play this year AND you were too stupid to realize it when it could have helped the team more.

(03-25-2024, 12:27 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: agree also  Burrow should be able to win  like Mahomes, Jackson without top tier 2nd WR and the Bengals out of the top tier teams have one of the best ones in Chase plus WRs haves become the easiest to replace in draft and are becoming the most productive draft positions coming out of college right away.

(03-25-2024, 05:23 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: If that’s what they really offered he should already be a patriot imho


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(03-25-2024, 05:43 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: IF we were gonna trade Higgins, we should have done so before FA, when that extra $22 mil could have done some good.

IDK, Reader + Fuller maybe? Wilkins instead of Rankins?

Doing it now would be admitting you have bungled the contract sutuation so bad he won't play this year AND you were too stupid to realize it when it could have helped the team more.

(03-25-2024, 05:47 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Those guys have all Pro TEs, better OLs, better running games and better Ds. And better coaching and better FOs.

(03-25-2024, 05:48 PM)BengalsBong Wrote: I agree. I would much rather have a rookie that wants to play for the team on the field. As opposed to a player that wants traded.

(03-25-2024, 05:51 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: I disagree,  it seems Tee is maybe putting bengals in box with supposed trade demand, i think now bengals were content to tag tee and keep him a year at leastplus we still need to sign Chase and other contracts coming open. 

(03-25-2024, 05:47 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Those guys have all Pro TEs, better OLs, better running games and better Ds. And better coaching and better FOs.

(03-25-2024, 05:00 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: So they win two SBs in a row without a #1 WR and their reckoning is coming?? I would hope Bengals would take that