(06-04-2024, 12:02 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: I guess we will find out.  Waddle, Devonta smith, Dk Metcalf, to name a few.  there are a LOT of good receivers in the nfl. If we are only looking at first two years, should we put Higgins in this potential as well?  The only thing that stopped him was injuries.

(06-04-2024, 12:04 AM)bfine32 Wrote: It's possible that in a few years WRs do what RBs have done; as the NFL goes more to a passing league. 

There's a lot of good ones and 1 might not ne worth 15% of the team cap. 

(06-04-2024, 12:19 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: I just don’t see that happening. Unless you are Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady (NE version) you really need one elite, and/or two high end passing options to even make it to a Super Bowl, let alone win it.

(06-03-2024, 03:29 PM)Joelist Wrote: Again remember the NFL Funding Rule. The question is do they have sufficient cash on hand to put into escrow to cover that big of a guarantee hit. Remember with Burrow he agreed to allow the guarantee to come on in stages so they would be able to put the needed cash into escrow. The rest of those terms they won't have issues with.

Now that Jefferson is done you can expect they're talking to Chase already concerning guarantee structure.

(06-03-2024, 01:25 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Right, but from the contracts we've seen going out to other WRs of that same draft class, I think that you'd have to slot Chase just a little below Jefferson, but higher than Waddle.

(06-04-2024, 08:06 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Right, Chase will not get more than Jefferson because he has not produced like Jefferson.

(06-04-2024, 08:06 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Right, Chase will not get more than Jefferson because he has not produced like Jefferson.

(06-04-2024, 01:30 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: And even Mahomes has had arguably the greatest pass catching TE of all time his entire career.

(06-03-2024, 09:53 PM)J24 Wrote: I completely disagree with this ; JJ has been forced  fed the ball his entire career while Chase has had to share the wealth with Tee and Boyd. Of course his numbers are going to be better because of it.

(06-04-2024, 10:30 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Who just re-signed for less than 1/2 of what JJ just got allowing extra $ to bring back Chris Jones. That's kind of the point.

(06-03-2024, 08:24 PM)Synric Wrote: Chase probably wants to sign a 3 year extension now (5 total years) so he's 28 and still in his prime headed into his next contract year. He could collect three large pay days in less than 10 years.

(06-04-2024, 10:54 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: Apples and oranges.  Kelce is the highest paid tight end.  Kelce showed signs of slipping last year and is 10 years older than Jefferson/chase.  The kelce extension still paid him at the top of his position, and to ensure an all time great retires as a chief.  Chris jones (3/9) signed before kelce (4/29) did anyway.

(06-04-2024, 11:13 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Superbowl rings between the 2 is also Apples to Oranges.

Yet the point made is apples to apples. Do you put 35ish% of your team cap into 2 players? 

KC chose not to do this when they let a WR better than Chase Walk. 

(06-04-2024, 10:38 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Chase best year was 1st year, his numbers have deceased since then , not that he won't make bank but I don't see him as top WR in league 

(06-04-2024, 11:13 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Superbowl rings between the 2 is also Apples to Oranges.

Yet the point made is apples to apples. Do you put 35ish% of your team cap into 2 players? 

KC chose not to do this when they let a WR better than Chase Walk. 

(06-04-2024, 11:25 AM)Synric Wrote: Travis Kelce is one of one. The Bengals don't have an elite talent like that on their roster that will play for a fraction of what other teams are getting for their elite receivers.

(06-04-2024, 12:08 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: A few things.

1) 2025, Patrick Mahomes and Chris jones will account for $100,000,000 next year.  Two players, 36% of expected cap.
2) chases salary is mostly locked in for the next two years.  The cap will continue to increase, so by the time it hits the books it won’t be 35% of the cap.  Sure it will “appear” like they have a lot tied up into two positions today, but the reality is when 2026 comes around, it won’t looks so bad.

There is a reason the chiefs let Tyreek hill walk.  While his production is great on the field, there are obvious enough concerns that the chiefs didn’t want him. He is a ticking time bomb.

Domestic assault conviction - 2014

Child abuse investigation - 2019

Assault investigation - 2023

paternity lawsuits - 2023

Civil lawsuit - 2024

He has 10 kids with a handful of different women.  He actually had kids with 3 different women, while he was married and none was with his wife.

I’m just saying, there is a reason that the chiefs let hill walk.