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RE: The offense had no chance - Essex Johnson - 09-11-2024
(09-10-2024, 03:09 PM)casear2727 Wrote: This was on FIRST DOWN....
One of the #Bengals few looks under center. Watch the #Patriots linebackers not even respect the run potential. This has to be addressed and should already have been addressed heading into the season.
— Johnny ? (@JohnnyNIX88) September 10, 2024
pic.twitter.com/NRJZtMXWF1
This play during the game summed up my frustration with Burrow, weak play action so LBs did not bite much,then great pocket with time ro throw he dumps off to a covered Brown who gets blown up.
RE: The offense had no chance - Nicomo Cosca - 09-11-2024
Week 1 film breakdown! There were plenty of missed opportunities , plenty of times I thought the correct play call was made, but way too many mistakes… can they be easily corrected? Or do we have physical hurdles at play? pic.twitter.com/VNXF87jHWP
— Tony Pike (@tony_pike15) September 11, 2024
RE: The offense had no chance - THE PISTONS - 09-11-2024
(09-11-2024, 12:36 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:Week 1 film breakdown! There were plenty of missed opportunities , plenty of times I thought the correct play call was made, but way too many mistakes… can they be easily corrected? Or do we have physical hurdles at play? pic.twitter.com/VNXF87jHWP
— Tony Pike (@tony_pike15) September 11, 2024
I feel like it's been the same thing for the past few years.
It appears it's not just 1 issue. It's several+. And they usually do figure them out.
RE: The offense had no chance - ochocincos - 09-11-2024
(09-11-2024, 01:02 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I feel like it's been the same thing for the past few years.
It appears it's not just 1 issue. It's several+. And they usually do figure them out.
But the questions are why is it happening and why does it take usually a few games to work them out whereas some teams come in firing on all cylinders Week 1?
The assumption is because the team isn't spending enough time practicing together and with a real defense going full-bore.
If so, they need to plan to get more playing time together (::cough:: preseason games ::cough::).
If it's something with Burrow physically, see if there's any way to help get him physically in season form by the end of preseason.
If it's something mentally with Burrow, that might be harder to work out ahead of time.
RE: The offense had no chance - Mickeypoo - 09-11-2024
(09-10-2024, 11:06 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: They start out slow every year and then figure it out.
The slow starts need to stop, though.
My theory is (and they will never admit this) is that the underestimated the Pats, played vanilla on offense, and saved a lot of wrinkles and schemes for the Chiefs. That is my hope, anyway.
I hope you are correct.
RE: The offense had no chance - RunKijanaRun - 09-11-2024
If there’s any positives from this, it’s that people are finally understanding how bad Lac Taylor is. Pitcher’s probably just as bad.
Think the titans will give us Callahan for Taylor?
RE: The offense had no chance - TheLeonardLeap - 09-11-2024
(09-11-2024, 02:48 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: If there’s any positives from this, it’s that people are finally understanding how bad Lac Taylor is. Pitcher’s probably just as bad.
Think the titans will give us Callahan for Taylor?
Why would we want Callahan? The goal is to have a GOOD coach.
RE: The offense had no chance - Nicomo Cosca - 09-11-2024
Asked about taking what the defense is giving, Joe Burrow highlights that sometimes the defense is giving you deep stuff, intermediate MOF stuff, and there's stuff you can scheme to target those areas.
— Jake Liscow (@JakeLiscow) September 11, 2024
This highlights the "playcalling" issue or chess match where your route…
RE: The offense had no chance - samhain - 09-11-2024
I get taking what the defense gives you, but I kind of hate to hear that statement regarding this particular game.
Great offenses can dictate to inferior defenses. I think many considered the Bengals to be a great offense personnel wise. A team like NE should not be dictating what an alleged top 5 qb in the league can or can't do to a point where he avoids throwing downfield.
This offensive group was drafted to score quick with chunk plays. You take that away and any team in the league is going to be in the driver's seat. It's basically the only thing the are really proficient at in this era.
RE: The offense had no chance - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-12-2024
(09-11-2024, 02:48 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: If there’s any positives from this, it’s that people are finally understanding how bad Lac Taylor is. Pitcher’s probably just as bad.
Think the titans will give us Callahan for Taylor?
Might wanna watch the Tony Pike breakdown in the thread about Burrow early in the season....
RE: The offense had no chance - Bengalbug - 09-12-2024
(09-11-2024, 10:37 PM)samhain Wrote: I get taking what the defense gives you, but I kind of hate to hear that statement regarding this particular game.
Great offenses can dictate to inferior defenses. I think many considered the Bengals to be a great offense personnel wise. A team like NE should not be dictating what an alleged top 5 qb in the league can or can't do to a point where he avoids throwing downfield.
This offensive group was drafted to score quick with chunk plays. You take that away and any team in the league is going to be in the driver's seat. It's basically the only thing the are really proficient at in this era.
Drafted Offensive group?
You had burrow and chase. Higgins was hurt. Other than those guys… the rest of the offensive group is made up of free agents or late, unproven, draft picks. I got blasted not long ago by many when I had serious questions about our WR group behind Chase and Higgins.
RE: The offense had no chance - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-12-2024
(09-11-2024, 01:39 PM)ochocincos Wrote: But the questions are why is it happening and why does it take usually a few games to work them out whereas some teams come in firing on all cylinders Week 1?
The assumption is because the team isn't spending enough time practicing together and with a real defense going full-bore.
If so, they need to plan to get more playing time together (::cough:: preseason games ::cough::).
If it's something with Burrow physically, see if there's any way to help get him physically in season form by the end of preseason.
If it's something mentally with Burrow, that might be harder to work out ahead of time.
The more I'm watching, the more I'm thinking mental. It could just be getting mentally tougher as time passes from injuries. Jared Goff didn't play preseason, and they won. I think that's a too simplistic way of looking at it. If the Bengals were the only one with that approach, or other teams with that approach were struggling, I'd agree. That isn't the case though. These film breakdowns have just shown poor mental football from Joe.
RE: The offense had no chance - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 09-12-2024
(09-10-2024, 07:52 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: I am totally lost sometimes on this response Board..We all love our Bengals but fact of the matter this team we saw last year and two days ago...really ain't that good...lol@ not tipping off anything to the chiefs..Yes, so were are purposefully going to lose a game in hopes that we may fool an upcoming team and maybe win a game?
The team we saw last year I gave up on after Joe Burrow got hurt and we put in what I thought was a QB that shouldn't of even
made the team and we damn near made the Playoffs. I don't know what you have been watching but under Zac Taylor the Bengals
play their best late in the year and this is not the Bengals under Marvin Lewis who never won when it mattered.
I throw everything out the window with this weird ass HC. Dude is just different.
(09-10-2024, 07:57 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: or just maybe our Bengals ain't that good..or just maybe Burrow is not healthy..etc..or just maybe because Burriow is not healthy all those coaching mistakes , poor tackling etc that he has covered up in the past ..he can longer do so
Or maybe you are trying to talk yourself into it. I don't get your responses.
You are hoping the Bengals suck or something?
RE: The offense had no chance - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 09-12-2024
(09-12-2024, 01:10 AM)Wyche Wrote: The more I'm watching, the more I'm thinking mental. It could just be getting mentally tougher as time passes from injuries. Jared Goff didn't play preseason, and they won. I think that's a too simplistic way of looking at it. If the Bengals were the only one with that approach, or other teams with that approach were struggling, I'd agree. That isn't the case though. These film breakdowns have just shown poor mental football from Joe.
Of course it is mental with Joe. He just needs to get some of his gritty way back. We all saw that throw to Tee on the first drive on
the Preseason game. Dude has it, just need to get his confidence back. He can make wow throws like that, he is the most precise QB
in the NFL when on his game. Mahomes is great and expect him to play great against our Defense, but Burrow if he gets the mental
confidence back we can beat the Chiefs I have no doubt.
I predicted we lose by 3 but we could very well win if the team responds after a terrible first game.
The Chiefs didn't look good either in their win against the Ravens.
RE: The offense had no chance - higgy100 - 09-12-2024
(09-12-2024, 01:25 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Of course it is mental with Joe. He just needs to get some of his gritty way back. We all saw that throw to Tee on the first drive on
the Preseason game. Dude has it, just need to get his confidence back. He can make wow throws like that, he is the most precise QB
in the NFL when on his game. Mahomes is great and expect him to play great against our Defense, but Burrow if he gets the mental
confidence back we can beat the Chiefs I have no doubt.
I predicted we lose by 3 but we could very well win if the team responds after a terrible first game.
The Chiefs didn't look good either in their win against the Ravens.
Don't you think the Ravens had something to do with that? These games aren't simulated. Nice not to look good and beat the Ravens because plenty of teams DO look good and don't beat them. You can bet your arse KC won't look/play bad this weekend.
RE: The offense had no chance - Lucius Cincinnatus - 09-12-2024
(09-12-2024, 01:25 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Of course it is mental with Joe. He just needs to get some of his gritty way back. We all saw that throw to Tee on the first drive on
the Preseason game. Dude has it, just need to get his confidence back. He can make wow throws like that, he is the most precise QB
in the NFL when on his game. Mahomes is great and expect him to play great against our Defense, but Burrow if he gets the mental
confidence back we can beat the Chiefs I have no doubt.
I predicted we lose by 3 but we could very well win if the team responds after a terrible first game.
The Chiefs didn't look good either in their win against the Ravens.
What exactly didn't look good? Of course they aren't going to dominate/blow out another really good team.
RE: The offense had no chance - Essex Johnson - 09-12-2024
(09-12-2024, 01:25 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Of course it is mental with Joe. He just needs to get some of his gritty way back. We all saw that throw to Tee on the first drive on
the Preseason game. Dude has it, just need to get his confidence back. He can make wow throws like that, he is the most precise QB
in the NFL when on his game. Mahomes is great and expect him to play great against our Defense, but Burrow if he gets the mental
confidence back we can beat the Chiefs I have no doubt.
I predicted we lose by 3 but we could very well win if the team responds after a terrible first game.
The Chiefs didn't look good either in their win against the Ravens.
Chiefs played a very good Ravens team, we lost to a terrible Pats team, so we need the Burrow like last Oct. Beat SF away.
RE: The offense had no chance - TheLeonardLeap - 09-12-2024
(09-12-2024, 01:25 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: The Chiefs didn't look good either in their win against the Ravens.
If scoring 27 points against last year's #1 scoring defense is not looking good, I wish we would not look good every single week.
RE: The offense had no chance - BengalsBong - 09-12-2024
(09-12-2024, 01:07 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: Drafted Offensive group?
You had burrow and chase. Higgins was hurt. Other than those guys… the rest of the offensive group is made up of free agents or late, unproven, draft picks. I got blasted not long ago by many when I had serious questions about our WR group behind Chase and Higgins.
They cannot throw the ball to themselves.
RE: The offense had no chance - Bengalbug - 09-12-2024
(09-12-2024, 05:55 PM)BengalsBong Wrote: They cannot throw the ball to themselves.
6 targets to Ja’Marr, 6 catches 62 yards.
23 targets to everyone else, 15 catches 102 yards and a fumble.
Guys need to get open and separate as well . It wasn’t good from burrow, but the fact of the matter is our WR3-WR6 is shaky.