(10-30-2024, 05:16 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Mixon averaged 4.9 ypc the first time Pollack was here.

(10-30-2024, 05:19 PM)Joelist Wrote: Which was pre Zac. Zac's "system" is quite different.

(10-30-2024, 05:15 PM)Joelist Wrote: Basically stop being cute like we keep doing. We mix concepts a lot with some gap, some zone, pulling and other stuff. Pick an approach the linemen can do well and make it your signature. We have no identity on runs aside from trying to do them out of shotgun, not running a lot and telegraphing the play.

Also Drive Blocking has a definition:

• Drive block: One-on-one block used when a DL lines up directly over an offensive lineman. The OL drives his hips forward, delivering the block from a wide base while keeping his head up and shoulders square.
  

https://footballuniversity.org/technique-tuesday-offensive-line-blocking/

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(10-30-2024, 03:34 PM)Lucius Cincinnatus Wrote: What does Moss (who started 8 games due to Taylor's injuries) being a back-up or splitting time have anything to do with the fact that you said he was good last year and Mixon was bad last year when essentially every stat (traditional or advanced) would tell you that they were very similar or Mixon is actually better? It's not like we are looking at just volume stats, we looked at the advanced stats like you suggested and Mixon was better in almost every single one....

When did I say anything about Mixon being awesome lol? It's so funny when people are called out for misinformation and then completely fabricate an argument to attempt to justify their comment. I never said Mixon was awesome, great, or even good. Simply that if you called Mixon "bad" last year, I'm not sure how you can possibly argue that Moss was "good". 

I didn't fail to grasp the point. The example you used to make your point was just blatantly false, hence my comment. I'm not sure why have failed to grasp reality...

(10-30-2024, 02:52 PM)TheCincinnatiKid Wrote: This franchise absolutely needs to treat the run game with more respect. A run game that was even just average would help our offence a ton. Right now, every defence can virtually just send the DL after Burrow all game, because there's no need to respect our run game (outside of the occasional impressive burst from Chase Brown).

Unfortunately, planning has been Bengals 101 since Burrow got here. Rely on the star QB and WR to make it all happen. A rungame of any quality would take so much pressure off of the QB and we seemingly do nothing to try and make it work.

(10-30-2024, 08:46 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Keep dreaming, Kid. I've been hoping for a return of the Sam Wyche OL for many, many years. I've come to the conclusion that Mike Brown just doesn't see the value in building a team from the interior and then working outward. 

All they need to do is look at the historically successful coaches throughout history, they all had strong interior OLs, and defenses that were built from the middle out as well. If you spend your money on core players that can block and tackle well, you'll most likely win more than you lose, because 80% of the game takes place in the middle of the field.

(10-29-2024, 03:38 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: the bengals need a new guard. Thats step 1. Secondly, they need a new run game coordinator and o-line coach. Mims is the only good athlete on that line. That is a huge issue. Easily the most glaring problem

(Yesterday, 09:09 AM)Synric Wrote: Mike Santagata did a article yesterday about the Bengals run game (I inadvertently stole some of his clips lol).

He talks about how the Drive Blocks are not moving people, we are still having miscues in the rush offense week 8, and the running backs are just not driving/falling forward at times.

https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/allbengals-insiders-plus/film-breakdown-here-s-why-the-cincinnati-bengals-running-game-is-a-disaster-01jbeprd8824

(10-30-2024, 08:38 PM)casear2727 Wrote: A backup has a lower bar than a premier RB1 at a high salary, and again, the point was that most RBs will struggle in this offense.  Again, your lack of comprehension is preventing you from seeing the point. 

In 2023 Moss had a better YACON/AT and was a much better pass blocker.  2 key things this offense needed.  Moss also led the league in rushing yards over expected on shotgun runs in 11 personnel.  Which is what we ran all last year.  Im guessing you didnt realize this..?  In fact he was 5th in the league in ROYE last season.  I never said Moss is better overall than Mixon, but in key categories that are important to our offense he was good in 2023.  You comparing totals when Mixon had 75 more rushing attempts is really dumb, in my humble opinion. 

The fact that you go on some silly little tangent that totally misses the point is embarrassing.

(Yesterday, 09:21 AM)Was Moss good last year on the Colts? Wrote: Your Post - 

Ask yourself this.

Was Moss good last year on the Colts?
Yes he was.

Is Moss good this year?
No

Is Mixon good this year on the Texans?
Yes

Was Mixon good here last year?
No

You clearly said Mixon was bad last year and Moss was good last year. Saying you didn't say that is embarrassing. Lol, I totally understand your point, just the example (Moss vs. Mixon) is a terrible example to highlight that point, which is what I'm discussing. The fact that your unable to understand that is embarrassing. There is no stat that you can highlight that would defend the argument that Mixon was bad and Moss was good last year. Even so, looking at 1-2 stats where Moss has a leg up, doesn't equate to one player being "bad". 

I shared volume stats and advanced stats. You ignoring that 2nd post is very dumb in my humble opinion. 

You were incorrect in your assessment of Mixon vs. Moss and instead of acknowledging that, you've tried to make irrelevant arguments to the point I've made. 

(Yesterday, 01:03 AM)Bengal Dude Wrote: Jay Morrison mentioned, on the most recent Growler podcast, that the FO didn't want to get rid of Mixon. Apparently the coaches pushed for it because they believed the running game would improve if they got their guy in there instead. 

(10-29-2024, 03:23 PM)lone bengal Wrote: It's the scheme that's the problem we've been a bottom of the league team in rushing under Taylor. We were told Joe Mixon was done and he's having a career year in Houston and even catching the ball well. Zack Moss played well last for Indy and he's terrible now. We can never can a yard in short yardage and I think the O-line is decent. 

(10-29-2024, 03:38 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: the bengals need a new guard. Thats step 1. Secondly, they need a new run game coordinator and o-line coach. Mims is the only good athlete on that line. That is a huge issue. Easily the most glaring problem

(10-29-2024, 04:40 PM)Joelist Wrote: It's a scheme problem not a player problem. We have a power line and our scheme leans away from doing power things. We need to get under center and drive block instead of these dumb zone concepts. Let the linemen attack, which is how a line builds cohesion and an identity. Also both run and pass out of the same formations - STOP GIVING THE PLAY AWAY. Make defenses guess at least a little by breaking tendencies. These are VERY simple things and would do us a world of good.

(10-29-2024, 03:06 PM)Bengalfan4life27c Wrote: Lets face it we have a bottom 5 RB room I feel a stud RB would allow us to control TOP more open up the passing game and even protect a bad defense. This line isn't terrible best Zac has had nobody is afraid of our RB's

(10-29-2024, 03:25 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Hilarious post

Joe Mixon is a stud right now in Houston. He was terrible when he was here. Do the math