(12-10-2024, 03:30 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Burton not growing into at least an explosive backup for us makes me think it is possible we bring back Tee along with Joe's confidence.

When Tee DOES play, he brings another element even if he was dropping balls last night. He is injured a lot and that should drive his price down.

(12-10-2024, 03:29 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Look, where he ends up, or what the FO does is anyone's guess. 

But the idea that we cannot pay him is total BS. Completely factually untrue. Utter malarkey. 

We could have paid Reader as well. Rankins is double his cap hit this year 

(12-10-2024, 03:03 PM)CKwi88 Wrote: I believe the young folk call this "copium".

Barring another tag (if that's even possible". Tee will be playing elsewhere next year. A team will certainly throw too much money at him for the Bengals to keep him.

(12-10-2024, 03:31 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: If we bring Tee back then it makes the Burton pick look even more foolish. 

(12-10-2024, 03:31 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: If we bring Tee back then it makes the Burton pick look even more foolish. 

(12-10-2024, 03:34 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Oh well, cannot care about what it looks like. Just make the right moves, you have to admit you made a mistake to grow from it.

Burton is really talented, cannot blame them for the pick. He was probably the 3rd most talented WR in that Draft. Worth the gamble.

If he gets his head on straight and makes a positive impact so be it. But Tee is a good player for us when he plays.

I want Gesicki back too though.

(12-11-2024, 09:51 AM)CJD Wrote: I chalk this up as just talk. Burrow had the chance to ensure Higgins and Chase would stay, but he chose to have a record breaking extension.

I don't blame him at all for that. But if he wanted to be Tom Brady, he had the opportunity to be Tom Brady.

If the Bengals were going to sign Higgins long term, they would have done it already. Due to the rising salary cap, players get more expensive every off season. There's no way the Browns don't know that. So by tagging him and then ignoring him all off season, that told me what I needed to know about their intentions for Higgins.

Now they need to give probably 5 to 7M more AAV than they would have last off season to Chase because they were, again, too stupid to sign their players early. I just don't see how they can fit Higgins in while still fixing this albatross of a defense.

(12-10-2024, 02:53 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: That'd be the Bengals FO having to pay MORE guaranteed money out of pocket this offseason by turning ~$20m of Burrow's base salary into a signing bonus to make more space.

Also Chase is about to get $90m guaranteed at signing.
Also Hendrickson wants an extension that'll be another $45m guaranteed at signing.
A Tee contract would probably be another $45m guaranteed at signing.

So the Bengals FO would need to immediately spend/escrow $200m in signing bonuses and guarantees this offseason before even beginning to consider actually adding anyone to the current team to actually make it better than it's been over two straight playoff misses.

Don't see it happening.

(12-11-2024, 10:55 AM)Synric Wrote: Joe's 2025 base salary was already guaranteed at signing so that wouldn't matter. It would just make his cap hits slightly bigger the rest of his contract.


I agree though Ja'Marr Chase and Trey Hendrickson are likely going to dominate the guaranteed money this off-season which hurts the team in free agency. (Not to mention coaches who will get guaranteed money). 

(12-10-2024, 10:55 AM)Synric Wrote: Restructuring will only lower Joe's cap hit for 2025 and raise it for the rest of his contract. That wouldn't create space for a long term Tee Higgins deal.

(12-11-2024, 09:42 AM)Sled21 Wrote: No, it really doesn't. It just means they tried a replacement player for Tee and it did not work out. Trying something new is not foolish. 

(12-10-2024, 03:34 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Options for Bengals and Tee

1, Sign a l long term deal ((4 or 5 year) with salary increases each year, but less guaranteed money due to his injury history. 
2. Tag Tee again and keep him
3. Tag Tee and trade him

I have no doubt Tee could get a 1st round and a 4th or 5th round in a trade. Bengals give permission to team they have a deal worked out the ability to negotiate long term deal with Tee

4. Let Tee enter FA, and they get the best 3rd round compensary pick in 2026 draft.

(12-11-2024, 03:30 PM)pally Wrote: Jeremy Fowler reports that David Mulugheta is no longer listed as Tee's agent on the NFLPA site but that no one else is listed other.  There ave been rumors all season about Tee looking for new representation.  The Bengals and Mulugheta do not have a good relationship so it could be a positive for negotiations if Tee starts working with someone else

(12-11-2024, 03:30 PM)pally Wrote: Jeremy Fowler reports that David Mulugheta is no longer listed as Tee's agent on the NFLPA site but that no one else is listed other.  There ave been rumors all season about Tee looking for new representation.  The Bengals and Mulugheta do not have a good relationship so it could be a positive for negotiations if Tee starts working with someone else