(03-11-2025, 08:38 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Some of us lived through the 90s and early 2000s of complete garbage, so this is nothing.

Do I wish we had made moves? Yes, obviously, but we're taking care of our big three and it's not over yet, so I'm holding out hope.

There's still some guards in free agency that we could sign- Zeitler is 35 but still good, so could be a short-term fix, Scherff, Jenkins, Becton- and more are bound to be cut at some point.

I wish we would have been active, but it's only the legal tampering period, and I think we just need guards an an upgraded secondary, so I'm not panicking yet, especially with the draft still ahead.

Don't come back in a few weeks, months, or even during the season if you're saying you're jumping ship.

(03-11-2025, 11:33 PM)Lucius Cincinnatus Wrote: We went 8-9 and missed the playoffs, so bringing the band back together doesn't really do much. Where are the moves that are impactful enough to get us in the playoffs, let alone have a real shot at the Super Bowl? 

Oren Burke -> ADG - No tangible upgrade if an upgrade at all
Samaje Perine -> Zach Moss - No tangible upgrade if an upgrade at all
Slayton -> Rankings - This is an improvement, but if you think Slayton is going to have the type of impact on the defense that we need, you'll convince yourself of anything and it's not worth continuing a conversation

(03-11-2025, 11:33 PM)Lucius Cincinnatus Wrote: We went 8-9 and missed the playoffs, so bringing the band back together doesn't really do much. Where are the moves that are impactful enough to get us in the playoffs, let alone have a real shot at the Super Bowl? 

Oren Burke -> ADG - No tangible upgrade if an upgrade at all
Samaje Perine -> Zach Moss - No tangible upgrade if an upgrade at all
Slayton -> Rankings - This is an improvement, but if you think Slayton is going to have the type of impact on the defense that we need, you'll convince yourself of anything and it's not worth continuing a conversation

(03-11-2025, 11:49 PM)pulses Wrote: If all you're gonna go is come in here and cry and complain we don't wanna hear it

(03-11-2025, 11:42 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: 9-8…

You failed to mention coaching changes.  Won’t know if that will materialize… but it’s significant.

(03-11-2025, 07:13 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: They haven't had a terrible offseason. They just didn't add any guys that move the needle. And the defense desperately needs more pass rushing and play making.

We've see what will happen. They'll wait for Guards to sign huge deals, then they'll swoop in and add one who's left.

(03-12-2025, 12:44 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: The D needs everything. Better run D, better pass rush, better LBs, better CBs, better S play. It is too much to fix in FA in one year. 

Hill and Slaton are both good run defenders. Ossai and his agent both think next year will be big, why else sign for 1 year? He got 5 in his last 7 games. We got a little LB help with Burks. 

I think our approach with the D in FA has been correct. The FA DT/Edge class was not great, and guys who are dituational pass rushers are getting $26 mil. The Edge/pass rushing DT part of the draft is strong. Take 1 of each early and our rotations on the DL are set. 

My beef is: 

1) Not getting Tee/Chase deals done earlier to lower their cap hits.
2) No Burrow restructure to free up cap. 
3) No IOL help yet. 
4) No Trey extension

But Trey, Tee, & Chase ARE still here, and likely will be. There are some quality Gs left (Jenkins, Becton, Zeitler, Scherff). 

My pitchforks & torches are in the garage, but I am not busting them out just yet. 

(03-11-2025, 07:05 PM)ClarkHarris4Prez Wrote: Seriously. This is beyond unacceptable. This franchise is A walking clown show. Not only do we STILL not have one of the big 3 signed, we have not improved the team one bit in free agency. A team with a top 2 qb who missed the playoffs last year. Watching as quality contributors get signed one by one to reasonable deals while we sit on our hands. I am done spending anything on this team. I hope many of you will join me. They do not deserve our financial support. If they don't want to get with the times and do what is necessary to compete than they need to sell the ******* team!

(03-12-2025, 12:35 AM)Lucius Cincinnatus Wrote: People said I was complaining last off-season when folks had blind optimism that our defense was going to be better and that our offense & run game was going to look different....

People don't like to take a step back and see things for what they are in the grand scheme of the NFL, then for some reason claim I'm "complaining" or "crying" when I haven't complained or cried about anything. Just stating a pretty obvious opinion that hurts some of your feelings. 

Keep on drinking the Kool-Aid! Sometimes I wish I could be a blind homer, but then I realize I prefer reality a bit too much. 

(03-12-2025, 08:16 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: Our offense and run game did look different….

(03-11-2025, 10:19 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: idk why im responding to this, but I will

if burrow quits and pulls a palmer, I will take a step back with my fandom.

if I was a colts fan, I wouldve taken a big step back after they ruined Andrew Luck. It's really unacceptable

(03-11-2025, 07:05 PM)ClarkHarris4Prez Wrote: Seriously. This is beyond unacceptable. This franchise is A walking clown show. Not only do we STILL not have one of the big 3 signed, we have not improved the team one bit in free agency. A team with a top 2 qb who missed the playoffs last year. Watching as quality contributors get signed one by one to reasonable deals while we sit on our hands. I am done spending anything on this team. I hope many of you will join me. They do not deserve our financial support. If they don't want to get with the times and do what is necessary to compete than they need to sell the ******* team!

(03-12-2025, 12:59 PM)ochocincos Wrote: For those telling OP to just go ahead and abandon fandom for the team, I'm assuming the reason they haven't is because just a handful of people doing so will not get the Brown family to notice. The intent would be if enough people do it and affect the profits, it may kick ownership into changing their ways.

With that said, we know how stubborn Mike Brown is, so even if a bunch of people jump ship, it likely won't do anything.

Best thing I can suggest is if the offseason is unsatisfactory, just don't watch games unless/until they start doing well or make the playoffs.

(03-12-2025, 01:05 PM)Sled21 Wrote: For real. I just don't understand if being a "fan" of this team makes you as miserable as it appears it makes some one here, why watch. There are 31 other teams to support. There are other sports. If it makes you unhappy, then quit watching. Personally, I like it when they win, but this is my hometown team that I have supported since 1968. And this is one of my favorite groups of players from all that time. No way I'm boycotting anything.  

(03-12-2025, 10:34 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I wish the whole Palmer/Burrow stuff would just stop. They are two completely different kinds of people. It's like people just WANT it to happen.

(03-12-2025, 01:33 PM)Nepa Wrote: If you've been watching since 1968, then you're probably like me and realize any season -- any game really -- can be your last, so your not going to sit one out unless you have to. It can be painful at times -- the three close Super Bowl losses were excruciating when the final second ran off the clock -- but still a terrific diversion and something to look forward to.