(02-04-2016, 05:31 PM)OrlandoBengal Wrote: Considering that Kirkpatrick was a complete luxury pick at the time Chandler Jones, Melvin Ingram, and Dont'a Hightower all look like very good options.

(02-04-2016, 05:01 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Second round DE (Discus End?) Margus Hunt thinks you give the bengals a BIT too much credit there. As does 1st round "Can't backpedal" CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Darqueze "Best Rookie I've Ever Seen (So great he can't get on the field) Dennard... and to top it off, one of the two OT they just drafted, who will be sitting on the bench again.

(02-04-2016, 05:05 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: So that'd be more like a rich man's Sanu then, yeah? A Sanu fast enough to get separation?

(02-04-2016, 05:31 PM)OrlandoBengal Wrote: Considering that Kirkpatrick was a complete luxury pick at the time Chandler Jones, Melvin Ingram, and Dont'a Hightower all look like very good options.

(02-04-2016, 06:01 PM)gobobro Wrote: 1. Hunt was still the third pick of the Bengals, and they had hedged their bets with very solid choices in Eifert and Bernard.
2. Dre Kirkpatrick was regarded as the 3rd best corner in that draft (by CBS). He was also a 3 year starter for Alabama at corner... Stephen Gilmore went 7 spots before Dre.
3. Dennard was ranked as the best corner in his draft class (by CBS).

Braxton is currently listed as the 10th best WR prospect (by CBS). He has very few starts at the position, has less than a season of starts at that position (I believe), and is projecting right now based on athleticism. I don't think that kind of project is something the Bengals will go for in the first round, and probably not in the second.


We'll see.

(02-04-2016, 06:06 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Was very vocal about not wanting Kirkpatrick along with a couple others posters on here. 

But the majority wanted him if available. He was not supposed to be a project as someone else comparing him to Hunt though. 

Wanted Hightower desperately that year. 

(02-04-2016, 03:03 PM)OrlandoBengal Wrote: He also got $15 million guaranteed from Seattle, more than he had made in his entire career as a Bengal.  Money like that sets your family up for life, it guarantees your future.  I don't blame anyone for cashing in when they can, especially in the NFL.  These guys are always one play away from their career being over... get paid while you can.

(02-04-2016, 06:12 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Oh, sorry for not being clearer. I wasn't actually arguing FOR Braxton Miller. I was just arguing against the concept that the Bengals don't draft development guys in the first two rounds. I actually haven't really formed an opinion on who they should draft in the first and second yet. I guess once the combine rolls around and more accurate information is available. Short people tend to be "taller", thin people tend to be "heavier", fat people tend to be "thinner" if you go by college stats/records. Plus everyone is faster in college records than they really are. Lol

Not sure who'd fit yet, but I wouldn't mind something like... LB, WR, DT, S, FB (yes a real FB, not a HB), K, WR... roughly in that order or so.



Side Note Edit: CBS also thinks that people should enjoy being subjected to Phil Simms for hours at a time, so their opinions aren't exactly golden.

(02-04-2016, 06:12 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Oh, sorry for not being clearer. I wasn't actually arguing FOR Braxton Miller. I was just arguing against the concept that the Bengals don't draft development guys in the first two rounds. I actually haven't really formed an opinion on who they should draft in the first and second yet. I guess once the combine rolls around and more accurate information is available. Short people tend to be "taller", thin people tend to be "heavier", fat people tend to be "thinner" if you go by college stats/records. Plus everyone is faster in college records than they really are. Lol

Not sure who'd fit yet, but I wouldn't mind something like... LB, WR, DT, S, FB (yes a real FB, not a HB), K, WR... roughly in that order or so.



Side Note Edit: CBS also thinks that people should enjoy being subjected to Phil Simms for hours at a time, so their opinions aren't exactly golden.

(02-04-2016, 05:10 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Don't think I have ever heard of a 17th overall pick CB not knowing how to backpedal before the Bengals drafted Kirkpatrick. That seems like a pretty important skill for a drafted CB, let alone a drafted CB in the first 20 picks of the first round of the draft. As soon as I saw that quote after he was drafted, I knew it was a project pick. Sure enough, it took 4 years for him to get any significant starting time.

Leon Hall was 2nd team All-Pro by his third year.

(02-04-2016, 12:04 AM)milksheikh Wrote: From this interview, It seemed like to me that he wanted to become a #1 receiver and not be in the shadow of A.J. Green.

(02-04-2016, 01:24 PM)Go Cards Wrote: CBS has Bengals drafting either Corey Coleman "Baylor" or Braxton Miller "OSU".

Looking for thoughts from the OSU nation on Miller as a Bengals WR.

Believe both are legitimate personally.

(02-05-2016, 11:41 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: I saw this as a first round projection, which I can't believe.  Miller is freak athlete, but he has VERY little experience in the WR role.  I  think he could be developed in to a solid slot receiver, but there is no way I would use a first round selection on him.  If the Bengals got him in the third, I would be thrilled.  Losing Jones could push Sanu outside and have Miller develop as a slot, but that is the more realistic place for him to be selected.

I am a big fan of his, and was flat-out amazed by what I saw him do as a true freshman in high school, but he doesn't have the deep ball tracking ability of a true WR and I think that will hinder his status.