(03-17-2020, 01:58 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Nah, any passing numbers are going to go up between the 80s and now.  Stats-wise Ken Anderson's 1981 MVP season would net him something like the 10th ranked QB or so in 2019.  Context is everything on stuff like this, so I get it.  

The short of it is, if you are a franchise with passing stats that have stood for 20+ years there is a good chance you've been in QB hell for a long time.  For example, the Chicago Bears still have single season passing records in yards and TDs held by Erik Kramer from 1995.  That's brutal.

(03-17-2020, 01:08 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Why don't you read the post, literally ABOVE yours?

He was just doing a numbers comparison and even said back in 2016, that he would need to sniff success or leaderboards to overtake Anderson.

(03-17-2020, 03:39 PM)BengalChris Wrote: Well, I didn't notice it was a old thread. Thought it was all new. LOL

 

(05-29-2016, 06:15 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: I believe most would agree the main Bengals franchise QBs throughout the organization’s history are Ken Anderson, Boomer Esiason, Carson Palmer, and Andy Dalton.  The four QBs rank in the top four for franchise history in games played by a Bengals QB:  Anderson – 192, Boomer – 134, Palmer – 97, and Dalton – 77.

My question for the forum posters, if Dalton continues to play long enough and passes Palmer in games and then reaches total games played similar to Boomer and Anderson, does it make him the best Bengals QB ever?  Dalton does play in the modern-pass friendly QB league, but he is in contention to break all-time Bengal QB records.  A small sample of stats:

Dalton ranks 4th for completions:
1. Anderson – 2654
2. Palmer – 2024
3. Boomer – 2015
4. Dalton – 1556

Dalton ranks 4th in yards thrown:
1. Anderson – 32838
2. Boomer – 27149
3. Palmer – 22694
4. Dalton – 18008

Dalton ranks 4th for TDs:
1. Anderson – 197
2. Boomer – 187
3. Palmer – 154
4. Dalton 124

I understand there are other statistics to consider, season win totals, Pro Bowls, MVP awards, trips to playoffs, playoff wins, Super Bowl appearances, and other factors to consider when determining who is the best all-time Bengals QB.

If Andy Dalton has longevity as a Bengals QB does he have a case for being the Bengals all-time franchise, best QB over Anderson, Boomer, and Palmer?

(03-18-2020, 01:16 AM)grampahol Wrote: Just you guys wait and see..If I live to 80 I'll personally resurrect this very thread myself to announce I'm 80 and Joe Burrow is retired as a gazillionaire.. That said..I doubt I'll make it to 80. I have no desire to live as a doting, elderly old man with severe memory problems. I've been a caregiver to elderly folks for the better part of the past 20 years. I want nothing to do with being that old myself.

(04-30-2020, 06:30 PM)CarolinaBengalFanGuy Wrote: Bengals top 5 Quarterbacks in my eyes:



1. Ken Anderson ('71 to '86) 91-81 4 Pro Bowls 1 1st team All-Pro
I don't really see how anyone argues against Ken being the #1 QB in the franchise. Most wins. Damn good stats considering he played in a less pass happy era and took us to the Super Bowl. Also the only one on my list to spend his career with one team. And the mustache, come on it's amazing.


2. Boomer Esiason ('84 to '92, '97) 62-61 3 Pro Bowls 1 1st team All-Pro
If nothing else taking us to a Super Bowl plus being on the franchise QB list will shoot you straight to the top. I wasn't born until '89, so I'm just looking at stats and records and so forth, but I'd put Boomer second just for the Super Bowl.


3. Andy Dalton ('11 to '19) 70-61 3 Pro Bowls
He never did get a playoff win, but 5 straight playoff appearances for a 2nd round QB on a team that frankly has not been very good for the past 30 years is still a hell of an accomplishment. And he's a class act guy.


4. Carson Palmer ('04 to '10) 46-51 2 Pro Bowls
He did have one magical season that maybe could have led to a Super Bowl or at least a playoff victory, but we'll never know. I really do wonder how his career here would have changed without the knee injury. Plenty of good QB's never get back to where they were before an injury like that.


5. Jeff Blake ('94 to '99) 25-41 1 Pro Bowl
Really we've only had 4 franchise Quarterbacks in our existence (the guys above), but Jeff Blake did go to a pro bowl and played pretty well I reckon for how awful we were in the 90's.

(05-29-2016, 06:15 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: I believe most would agree the main Bengals franchise QBs throughout the organization’s history are Ken Anderson, Boomer Esiason, Carson Palmer, and Andy Dalton.  The four QBs rank in the top four for franchise history in games played by a Bengals QB:  Anderson – 192, Boomer – 134, Palmer – 97, and Dalton – 77.

My question for the forum posters, if Dalton continues to play long enough and passes Palmer in games and then reaches total games played similar to Boomer and Anderson, does it make him the best Bengals QB ever?  Dalton does play in the modern-pass friendly QB league, but he is in contention to break all-time Bengal QB records.  A small sample of stats:

Dalton ranks 4th for completions:
1. Anderson – 2654
2. Palmer – 2024
3. Boomer – 2015
4. Dalton – 1556

Dalton ranks 4th in yards thrown:
1. Anderson – 32838
2. Boomer – 27149
3. Palmer – 22694
4. Dalton – 18008

Dalton ranks 4th for TDs:
1. Anderson – 197
2. Boomer – 187
3. Palmer – 154
4. Dalton 124

I understand there are other statistics to consider, season win totals, Pro Bowls, MVP awards, trips to playoffs, playoff wins, Super Bowl appearances, and other factors to consider when determining who is the best all-time Bengals QB.

If Andy Dalton has longevity as a Bengals QB does he have a case for being the Bengals all-time franchise, best QB over Anderson, Boomer, and Palmer?

(04-30-2020, 08:02 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Good post, but admittedly I thought Burrow was sneaking in at #5.