(06-21-2015, 10:56 AM)fredtoast Wrote: I am thrilled to hear the McCarron is looking good.  We have been very lucky that Dalton has not missed a single game in four years.  That is pretty rare in the NFL.

But McCarron's success will have no effect on Dalton.  Dalton's problems have nothing to do with being lazy or unmotivated.  So competition will not make him any better.

(06-21-2015, 07:49 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: No he won't. Not even a little.

(06-21-2015, 02:00 PM)spazz70 Wrote: Hi buddy...Let me ask you a question...Do those other players have a game plan?  Do you think a coach ever told Rey to not tackle a player for the entire first half?  I know for fact that Andy was told not to throw to AJ in the first half of the Houston game...Gruden admitted it in an interview that it was part of the game plan.... there is a big difference in what a QB can and cannot control during a game as opposed to other positions....To just blame an entire game on one person is not fair either...I am not making "excuses" for Dalton...I am saying he has had his bad moments...and I was talking specifically about the playoff games.... Our defense getting thrashed by the Houston and Sd running games then the coaches panicking and having Dalton throw 42 and 51 times in a game is not 100% on Dalton...Dalton is going to make mistakes when he has to throw that many times....And a lot of QBs will also.....Our team does not show up on game day in the playoffs...that is not Dalton's fault either..... If those other players have a bad day it more than likely does not cost us the game...When Dalton does it more than definitely cost us the game.....My overall point is that in those playoff games Dalton played well enough to win IF the team had played up to its potential...Also Dalton is not forced into situations that he is not suited for...We all know that he is not the type of player to throw the team on his shouldrs and carry it....So why put him into that situation?

(06-21-2015, 09:32 PM)2MinutesHate Wrote: I'm not sure I understand why people here would not want McCarron to be anything more than a backup?   If he stays or leaves to become a starter, it's a win for the bengals, right?  

If he had to take dalton's spot at some point,  either the season fell apart or we've got something special here.  Personally, I hope he becomes great.  You never know.

(06-21-2015, 09:22 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: I don't think he will beat Andy out, but Andy better never miss a game.
I feel AJ has been winning over the locker room.
I think he is the swagger that Whit wants to see more of.
I'm not down on Andy, but AJ just has that "something". IMO

(06-21-2015, 09:22 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: I don't think he will beat Andy out, but Andy better never miss a game.
I feel AJ has been winning over the locker room.
I think he is the swagger that Whit wants to see more of.
I'm not down on Andy, but AJ just has that "something". IMO

(06-21-2015, 09:22 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: I don't think he will beat Andy out, but Andy better never miss a game.
I feel AJ has been winning over the locker room.
I think he is the swagger that Whit wants to see more of.
I'm not down on Andy, but AJ just has that "something". IMO

(06-21-2015, 09:06 PM)Marlon23 Wrote: I love AJ McCarron and everyone knows it.  I have been saying week 3-4 if Andy is no better since the day we drafted him.  I have the post to prove it as well.  Wait no I don't they took them down.  Any ways, I miss you FRED!  WHO DEY!!!!!!!!!!!!

(06-21-2015, 07:19 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Oh, we're gonna have the best backup QB in the league in 2015.......his name gonna be Andy Dalton!

(06-21-2015, 09:39 PM)t3r3e3 Wrote: While the rest of the team has played poorly as a whole in the Playoffs, Dalton has not played well enough to win.  1 TD, 7 picks (including a couple pick 6's), one infamous fumble, and a collective Passer rating in the mid 50's.  What part of that is good enough to win?  It's a dumpster fire.

(06-21-2015, 10:27 PM)DaltontoKroftSBchamps Wrote: I hope not, because it probably means we're having a losing season.

(06-21-2015, 11:00 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: I will preface my discussion about McCarron by stating that I am a big fan of Dalton's.  That being said, I remember reading something where Mike Brown stated something to the fact of how little the Seahawks were spending on the QB and how much that allowed them to sign great players around him.  I recall something to the effect of him saying "maybe that is the way to go".  

When I saw the details of Dalton's contract, I could see that if they are not satisfied with his performance this season, they could go with a young, inexpensive QB and focus on the defense and a running game.

(06-21-2015, 12:49 PM)Nately120 Wrote: As usual I disagree a good bit with some of your conclusions, though not the information you present.  First, we should stop using Trent Dilfer as the example any QB can win in the right situation because Andy's playoff numbers are not even up to Trent Dilfer-level yet.

Quote:You're kidding, right?  Dilfer had one playoff game where he completed more than 50% of his passes and he threw it a grand total of 14 times. 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DilfTr00/gamelog/post/

And all Kirk Cousins did was generate some buzz before being named the starter, committed a slew of turnovers, and sunk his own trade value.  We shall see, but I honestly think phasing out Dalton (for good or ill) is more likely than getting a good trade for McCarron.

(06-21-2015, 01:57 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Well,  I said "boner-fide" so yes.  I'm on the McCarron bandwagon now.  I have already decided to tell people who don't think AJ should start as people who are "not McCarron about winning the Super Bowl."