(10-16-2016, 07:22 PM)CINwillWIN Wrote: As always of late it's been working wonderfully....for the opposing team.

Is it killer instinct?....or lack of mostly.

Is it playing prevent when we are up 7? ....the conservative play in the league needs to go away.

Bad calls, agreed. Every team this season has had a bunch. 

Offense isn't great and the Defense has been non-existent in the past two games. 

...to me, it falls on coaching. 

Ogbuehi benched... it was a real mess. 

Turning point for today imo:
The Dalton sack in the endzone...Andy needs to know better than that...needed to be aware a little more of his surroundings....just bad.

(10-16-2016, 09:23 PM)Wyche Wrote: Boys....the effort and the intensity was there today.  A little fire in the belly was nice to see.  Two things contributed to this loss mainly.....

We haven't covered a TE since Moby Dick was a minner....

....and the coaching on offense.  We lost Big Mo early with that playcalling on the goal line....finally go Jumbo....Peko whiffs on a block....and the o line struggled again. Bodine was standing straight up....at least Johnson was firing out low.  It got better with Winston too.  Zeitler struggled...saw Boling whiff a bad one.  Bottom line....PA sucks and Zampese is in over his head.

(10-16-2016, 11:55 PM)wildcats forever Wrote: When I look back to the Bengals teams that were winners of playoff games, they had one common thread - coaches that inspired through creativity and discipline. Gregg and Wyche were leaders w/o question. Accountability and candor was the norm. On-field antics and hissy fits were not even a consideration, much less tolerated.

I may be just another fan who has his "theories", but I know what a winning football mindset looks like, and I haven't seen it here in total for over 25 years.

(10-16-2016, 11:55 PM)wildcats forever Wrote: When I look back to the Bengals teams that were winners of playoff games, they had one common thread - coaches that inspired through creativity and discipline. Gregg and Wyche were leaders w/o question. Accountability and candor was the norm. On-field antics and hissy fits were not even a consideration, much less tolerated.

I may be just another fan who has his "theories", but I know what a winning football mindset looks like, and I haven't seen it here in total for over 25 years.

(10-16-2016, 05:16 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: So far this season, the Bengals have had 4 shots to beat a team with a winning record. The results:


0-4 record
Outscored 64-116
Held to 17 points or less in all 4
Allowed 28 or more in the last 3

(10-17-2016, 04:25 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: This is my issue with Marvin. He really doesn't come off as inspiring. It's just always him clapping and yelling, "Let's go" on an endless loop. It truly feels like complacency has set in with this guy. He always looks tired and bored in his press conferences. Like he's just going through the motions.

(10-16-2016, 11:55 PM)wildcats forever Wrote: When I look back to the Bengals teams that were winners of playoff games, they had one common thread - coaches that inspired through creativity and discipline. Gregg and Wyche were leaders w/o question. Accountability and candor was the norm. On-field antics and hissy fits were not even a consideration, much less tolerated.

I may be just another fan who has his "theories", but I know what a winning football mindset looks like, and I haven't seen it here in total for over 25 years.

(10-17-2016, 05:23 AM)Wyche Wrote: Damn right......all of that died with Paul Brown and was buried during the "Christmas Eve Massacre".

(10-17-2016, 04:25 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: This is my issue with Marvin. He really doesn't come off as inspiring. It's just always him clapping and yelling, "Let's go" on an endless loop. It truly feels like complacency has set in with this guy. He always looks tired and bored in his press conferences. Like he's just going through the motions.

(10-17-2016, 04:36 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I definately agree with you guys but do you guys think our players can make up for the coaching?

(10-16-2016, 05:16 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: So far this season, the Bengals have had 4 shots to beat a team with a winning record. The results:


0-4 record
Outscored 64-116
Held to 17 points or less in all 4
Allowed 28 or more in the last 3

(10-17-2016, 04:36 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I definately agree with you guys but do you guys think our players can make up for the coaching?

(10-17-2016, 05:30 PM)Wyche Wrote: I'm not so sure.  Last year we had a ball hawking safety, Eifert, a #2 with great hands, and better line play on both sides of the ball.  Something is amiss this season, like 2010.

(10-17-2016, 06:04 PM)wildcats forever Wrote: Not enough, really. It's a concerted effort of plan your work, and work your plan. With the sophisticated schemes some offenses/defenses throw at us, you need more than on-field talent to overcome some of them, given the little reaction time available to identify and react. If players aren't coached in a scheme versus scheme, there will be plays where we're left in the dust. You have to have talent PLUS experience in this league to be consistently successful, with only the rare exception being a reality. I believe at this level, even the backups have enough talent to succeed IF they execute a well-coached plan. This isn't to say a coach can take an all-star group, tell them to out there and 'ball' and not win a few. They just won't do it week in and week out.