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RE: if Mike brown really wanted to win - pdub2005 - 11-01-2016
(10-25-2016, 10:20 AM)Au165 Wrote: The Bengals have 6.6 million in cap space right now, but Joe Thomas has a 9.5 Million dollar cap hit so we'd have to clear 3 million in cap to even make it possible. Before someone starts throwing out names to cut, realize there are dead money issues associated with many of the vets that would not really clear as much cap as you'd expect. Financially it doesn't appear feasible or smart to do mid year if it requires changing up the rest of the team. Staley has a similar cap number which means he is going to create the same problem.Players restructure their deals as part of trades all the time. Its either management isn't looking into these things, or the players they are targeting wouldn't be willing to restructure to come here.
People like to think things are as easy as call them up and give them a pick. There are a lot of issues associated with trading guys mid season that make it a tough thing to do.
RE: if Mike brown really wanted to win - Au165 - 11-01-2016
(11-01-2016, 10:55 AM)pdub2005 Wrote: Players restructure their deals as part of trades all the time. Its either management isn't looking into these things, or the players they are targeting wouldn't be willing to restructure to come here.
As I pointed out. These guys are top paid guys late in their career due guaranteed money in a sport where it isn't common. They may be willing to do it for an odds on favorite like NE, but very few other places most guys in this situation would do it for.
RE: if Mike brown really wanted to win - Beaker - 11-01-2016
(10-31-2016, 10:45 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: He pays guys he likes regardless of if they're getting the job done or not
He won't pay Free Agents.
Both of these are extremely stupid and false assertions.
RE: if Mike brown really wanted to win - bengalsturntup926 - 11-02-2016
(11-01-2016, 09:47 PM)Beaker Wrote: Both of these are extremely stupid and false assertions.
No they aren't, they are cold hard truths
RE: if Mike brown really wanted to win - fredtoast - 11-02-2016
(11-02-2016, 04:20 AM)bengalsturntup926 Wrote: No they aren't, they are cold hard truths
No they are not.
RE: if Mike brown really wanted to win - THE PISTONS - 11-02-2016
Saying we don't sign external free agents to more than a short-term deal is more accurate.
Although, they have tried to sign guys like Antonio Bryant and got burned pretty badly.
RE: if Mike brown really wanted to win - Wyche'sWarrior - 11-02-2016
(11-02-2016, 09:49 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Saying we don't sign external free agents to more than a short-term deal is more accurate.
Although, they have tried to sign guys like Antonio Bryant and got burned pretty badly.
.....and often when they're in the twilight of their careers.
RE: if Mike brown really wanted to win - bengalsturntup926 - 11-02-2016
(11-02-2016, 09:14 AM)fredtoast Wrote: No they are not.
Yes they are Mr positive polly
RE: if Mike brown really wanted to win - THE PISTONS - 11-02-2016
(11-02-2016, 10:30 AM)Wyche Wrote: .....and often when they're in the twilight of their careers.
I still look back on the past 5 years and wonder what the outcome would have been had we addressed a need in free agency...like sign an established center instead of rolling with a 4th Round Rookie Center.
Our 1st Round picks don't see the field...yet a Rookie 4th Round Center does? It wasn't because he had some great camp. It was because he faced little competition.
RE: if Mike brown really wanted to win - bengalsturntup926 - 11-02-2016
(11-02-2016, 12:56 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I still look back on the past 5 years and wonder what the outcome would have been had we addressed a need in free agency...like sign an established center instead of rolling with a 4th Round Rookie Center.
Our 1st Round picks don't see the field...yet a Rookie 4th Round Center does? It wasn't because he had some great camp. It was because he faced little competition.
Exactly
RE: if Mike brown really wanted to win - Hammerstripes - 11-02-2016
(11-02-2016, 12:56 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I still look back on the past 5 years and wonder what the outcome would have been had we addressed a need in free agency...like sign an established center instead of rolling with a 4th Round Rookie Center.
Our 1st Round picks don't see the field...yet a Rookie 4th Round Center does? It wasn't because he had some great camp. It was because he faced little competition.
Exactly. This coaching staff places importance on certain positions (CB, OL) and leaves the others to be filled with mid to late round picks. Sometimes it works (Atkins, Iloka, Burfict, Marvin Jones, Peko) and sometimes it fails miserably (CENTER)
You would think they would start to address the worst starter on the team before the 4th round, but they never do.
RE: if Mike brown really wanted to win - Wyche'sWarrior - 11-02-2016
(11-02-2016, 12:56 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I still look back on the past 5 years and wonder what the outcome would have been had we addressed a need in free agency...like sign an established center instead of rolling with a 4th Round Rookie Center.
Our 1st Round picks don't see the field...yet a Rookie 4th Round Center does? It wasn't because he had some great camp. It was because he faced little competition.
Bingo.....or actually gotten Dansby when we needed him, and he was still in his prime....etc, etc.