(11-15-2016, 06:17 PM)Benton Wrote: I'm probably in the minority, but I've got no problem with Zampese. He's taken one of the most talented offenses in the NFL and not gotten in their way. It's not his fault the line bad, both in play and in stupid penalties.

Outside of that, I'd be ok with a house cleaning. Our defensive players are individually better than bottom eight. Our team as individual players are better than a losing season. If the players aren't playing to their potential, you've got to look at the leadership.

(11-15-2016, 11:18 AM)masonbengals fan Wrote: They will not fire Marvin mid-season. That's not going to happen. And honestly I'm not seeing a competent HC on our sidelines. Those guys have gone on to greener pastures. We need a new face & attitude in a bad way.

(11-15-2016, 11:58 AM)Wyche Wrote: Absolutely.  I want to be clear here too.....I appreciate all Marv has done here, and what he does as a human being for the community is second to none.  I like the guy.  I really wanted to see him hoist the hardware.  Unfortunately, his time is done here, and I think it was after 2010, and definitely after the SD playoff debacle.

(11-15-2016, 08:17 PM)bengalsturntup926 Wrote:  And while everyone applauded his drafting I didn't. He hit on a few, but he really never took guys we talked about.

(11-15-2016, 05:14 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Mike isn't gonna fire Marvin during the season, so that scenario is very unrealistic. Will he fire him after the season is over? Probably not, but at least it's a bit more probable.

If Marvin was let go, there are 5 names that I think could be realistic candidates to replace him...

Brian Billick - He has stated that he would like to be a head coach again, and he's someone that I think could co-exist with Mike. 
Matt Patricia - Very smart guy, has shown great ability to adapt and of course, is a Belichick disciple.
Vance Joseph - They were very high on him when he was here and blocked him from going to Denver at one point.
Kyle Shanahan - A young, but experienced coordinator who seems primed for a HCing opportunity.
Josh McDaniels - Yes, he failed in his first gig as HC, but is someone I could see Mike/Katie being interested in.

I think these guys would all be realistic options. 3 of them are looking to become head coaches for the first time, the other 2 are trying to get back there. All would be affordable and I think all would jump at the opportunity.

(11-16-2016, 01:50 PM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: What about Mike McCarthy?  He's on his way out up in Green Bay.  He's a Super Bowl winning coach that's just ran his course there.  I think a change of scenery would do him some good.  If.....IF, we get rid of Marvin, I would like to at least see his name on the list. 

(11-16-2016, 01:50 PM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: What about Mike McCarthy?  He's on his way out up in Green Bay.  He's a Super Bowl winning coach that's just ran his course there.  I think a change of scenery would do him some good.  If.....IF, we get rid of Marvin, I would like to at least see his name on the list. 

(11-16-2016, 02:23 PM)fredtoast Wrote: McCarthy would just be 54 next year.

If the Packers let him go there will be a lot of teams lining up for his services, but I don't know if any of them will have a QB as good as Dalton.

(11-15-2016, 10:36 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: So if you follow the game day thread and jungle noise this morning there are people calling for

Marvin Lewis firing immediately  
The time has come to move on, from HC, OC, DC.  
Fire someone!!

So let's clear the air and get on the same page that Marvin ain't going anywhere mid season.  With that said, if the bengals were owned by an owner willing to make change, iif Marvin is let go today what quality Interim HC do the bengals have?  Is there anyone internally they think could be the guy for the job next year? What about for OC/DC?  

I am fully on board with complete overhaul of coaching staff after this year, but I just don't see any coaching change that could be done today that would help the team for the long haul.  if they fired Marvin, and were much worse they might be bad for player development for the likes of Boyd, ced (if not already), dbs, etc.

Anyway... if our OC,DC, and coaching staff as a whole is terrible who would coach this team the last 7 weeks?

(11-15-2016, 05:14 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Mike isn't gonna fire Marvin during the season, so that scenario is very unrealistic. Will he fire him after the season is over? Probably not, but at least it's a bit more probable.

If Marvin was let go, there are 5 names that I think could be realistic candidates to replace him...

Brian Billick - He has stated that he would like to be a head coach again, and he's someone that I think could co-exist with Mike. 
Matt Patricia - Very smart guy, has shown great ability to adapt and of course, is a Belichick disciple.
Vance Joseph - They were very high on him when he was here and blocked him from going to Denver at one point.
Kyle Shanahan - A young, but experienced coordinator who seems primed for a HCing opportunity.
Josh McDaniels - Yes, he failed in his first gig as HC, but is someone I could see Mike/Katie being interested in.

I think these guys would all be realistic options. 3 of them are looking to become head coaches for the first time, the other 2 are trying to get back there. All would be affordable and I think all would jump at the opportunity.

(11-17-2016, 02:41 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: ^ I think people want Marv replaced now because they fear that if Marv is around at the end of the season, we'll just see another "no change" reboot press conference.

Marv deserves to finish out the season and go out with some dignity, but he also definitely deserves to lose his job.

(11-17-2016, 05:13 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: I can't imagine what the fan base will do if we have another 2010 style PC.

I'm ready for no change to happen and Mike Brown to just chalk it up to all of the changes.