(12-19-2016, 04:17 PM)ShowMeUrTDs Wrote: . . .Hence, the profit sharing. The Bengals get some pennies from the sale of that Cowboys coffee mug because the NFL owners have a contract in which they share proceeds of profits to make it more equitable for small market teams. That's the whole point Brown doesn't need to care about building a brand because he gets paid by the rest of the NFL's brand!!!

(12-19-2016, 05:03 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: If he only cares about money why doesn't he sell the naming rights to the stadium?

(12-19-2016, 11:09 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Because it's his Dad's name that's on the stadium?

(12-20-2016, 01:00 AM)CageTheBengal Wrote: Glad we see that he doesn't only care about money.

(12-18-2016, 07:48 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: As i just posted in another thread, the owner of the Cincinnati Bengals does not care, not even the smallest amount, about you, your opinion of him, his team or coaches, nor anyone's opinion about his team. 

The only thing that matters is the profit.

As long as you continue to care about the Bengals, buy tickets and merchandise and invest your time and emotions, you are enabling Mike Brown to continue to operate the way he does. With no regard to how you feel about it. 

Your apathy is the only thing that can change this.

(12-20-2016, 10:12 AM)yellowxdiscipline Wrote: Hit him where it hurts.. Stop buying merch, and stop going to the games. That's the only way Mike will make any changes.

(12-20-2016, 04:28 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: At least other owners pretend to care about their fan base, and I'm sure some of them actually do. Fans = customers and customers = money. That's why you want to please them and actually GROW your customer base. Mike Brown's apathetic nature towards his fans is probably at least partially why no one cares about the Bengals outside of the Nati.

Even though Brown's arrogant and apathetic stance towards his own customers annoys me, what really gets me is that almost every other franchise at least tries to run something resembling first class. Nice practice facilities, team HOFs, jersey retirement ceremonies, past players involved in team events, occasional forays into free agency, not tolerating years of disappointing players or coaching, putting winning over loyalty, etc. Mike just isn't "keen" on any of this, and stubbornly refused to even consider most if not all of it.

If you want to boycott his product, good for you. It's probably what we all should do...but don't expect it to change anything. Mike would just wait out the lease and move the team. The man will never change and he'll never care what we peon fans think. We're a necessary inconvenience to him and his money machine.

(12-20-2016, 09:32 AM)jason Wrote: Mike Brown, Marvin Lewis, Paul Guenther, Paul Alexander,  Ken Zampese, Hue Jackson when he was here. None of them care about you.

None of the he players care about you either.

The Cincinnati Bengals don't care about you.

(12-20-2016, 01:08 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: Yep. Sadly that fact is lost on a good percentage of our deluded fan base. 

(12-20-2016, 09:32 AM)jason Wrote: Mike Brown, Marvin Lewis, Paul Guenther, Paul Alexander,  Ken Zampese, Hue Jackson when he was here. None of them care about you.

None of the he players care about you either.

The Cincinnati Bengals don't care about you.

(12-21-2016, 01:46 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Every head coach on the NFL has a huge ego and wants to win more than anything.  The reason they don't care what the fans think is the same reason adults don't listen to high school kids advice on relationships.  We just don't have the knowledge or expertise to do their job better than them.

The owner is a little different.  Mike Brown wants to win, but he wants to win his way to prove that he was right all along.

(12-19-2016, 10:56 PM)OrlandoBengal Wrote: Bingo!  And not to mention that the bulk of his money comes through television contracts.  Contracts that are negotiated on behalf of the entire league.  It is literally impossible for him to lose money.  Other franchises are worth more, but those franchises also own their stadiums, practice facilities, etc.  All things that Mike refuses to invest money in.

I have no doubts that Mike would like to win, but have always thought that doing so his way was the most important thing.  Imagine the gall it takes to have failed for the last 26 years and still do things the same way... no thought of a General Manager, expanding the scouting department, being more active in free agency, etc. Nope, just keep doing what you're doing because you've convinced yourself that you somehow know better than the rest of the league.

(12-21-2016, 01:46 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The owner is a little different. Mike Brown wants to win, but he wants to win his way to prove that he was right all along.

(12-21-2016, 02:30 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: And that's the problem. He's proven he can't.

Most owners have an ego that won't allow them to ignore public perception and they have pride (or whatever word you want to substitute) that won't allow them to stand pat for long when things are not going good.

Mike Brown has neither of those.

(12-18-2016, 07:48 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: As i just posted in another thread, the owner of the Cincinnati Bengals does not care, not even the smallest amount, about you, your opinion of him, his team or coaches, nor anyone's opinion about his team. 

The only thing that matters is the profit.

As long as you continue to care about the Bengals, buy tickets and merchandise and invest your time and emotions, you are enabling Mike Brown to continue to operate the way he does. With no regard to how you feel about it. 

Your apathy is the only thing that can change this.

(12-21-2016, 02:03 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Spot on for the most part. Now this doesn't mean coaches never get it wrong or that fans are never right, but yeah I can see HCs having that mentality...and with good reason. With Mike Brown, I partially think he stubbornly wants to prove he was right, but I also think winning is just a secondary priority to him. Because of what happened to his father 50+ years ago, he's made it his life mission to be overly loyal to coaches. To give them the support he feels his father never got from Modell.

Little did we know, the very thing that enabled the Bengals to exist (the firing of Paul Brown) would come to be the thing that hindered them for 3 decades and counting. In a 26 year span with 0 playoff wins, Mike has fired exactly 2 head coaches. That's unbelievable. The only coach he fired in a timely manner was DlCK Lebeau. Dave Shula was given so much leash that he was able to break the record for quickest to 50 losses. Coslet quit when he should've been canned, and obviously Marvin has had at least 3 points where a reasonable organization would've fired him.