(10-19-2015, 10:56 AM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: How about "Elite Andy"?  I mean he's playing at an elite level is he not?  

(10-19-2015, 10:06 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: If this is was bad game, a QBR of 115+, then we are in for many great years.

We can look at every play of any player in detail and nitpick them to death, but the reality is the throw to Jones was perfect (only he could catch it) and it was a long bomb.

(10-19-2015, 10:56 AM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: How about "Elite Andy"?  I mean he's playing at an elite level is he not?  

(10-19-2015, 12:10 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I'm not ready to make that declaration, but isn't it getting close to that point? Palmer was in the elite discussion after that 9 game streak (last 3 games of 2004 + first 6 of 2005). 

Dalton is enjoying a similar streak right now. So at what point can we legitimately have that discussion?

(10-19-2015, 10:06 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: If this is was bad game, a QBR of 115+, then we are in for many great years.

We can look at every play of any player in detail and nitpick them to death, but the reality is the throw to Jones was perfect (only he could catch it) and it was a long bomb. He continues to outsmart defenses with audibles (run to Gio yesterday) and that does not show up in any stat but may be his biggest attribute as a QB.

I say we change this bad and good AD and refer to him as "Genius Andy"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(10-19-2015, 01:50 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: It's not a nit pick.
He wasn't sharp yesterday. Passes were a bit high, he had the bad dropped snap.

Not every game like that will yield 3 TDs though. It took a few great plays from his skill guys this week.

That was a game he normally collapses in. He didn't. It's a good thing.

(10-19-2015, 01:59 PM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: I think you are nit picking.  Dalton was very good yesterday.  They keep him clean and he and his WRs both made plays.  

(10-19-2015, 02:47 PM)Stormborn Wrote: Game reminded me of the 2013 Buffalo game, Dalton looked great on paper, looked ok on the field. Didn't really have to make a lot of good throws, All 3 TDs were basically 99% made by the receiver. Placement was just average all throughout the game with the exception of the 42 yarder.

You can look at this as an insult or speaking harsh, but based on the standards he's set so far, it was an ok game performance wise.

(10-19-2015, 02:50 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: Exactly. This to me, felt like one of those games we could have seen "bad" Andy.
His feet were happy, balls a bit high...but instead of instant team wide panic, they kept cool and and out-talented the Bills like they should have because EJ Manuel is terrible. 

(10-19-2015, 02:54 PM)Stormborn Wrote: At this point we have all the pieces to try a different approach if one thing isn't working, where in years past it was "The Hell do we do now?" It creates confidence and composure knowing that you have the better team out there and you know how to adjust accordingly.

(10-19-2015, 02:47 PM)Stormborn Wrote: Game reminded me of the 2013 Buffalo game, Dalton looked great on paper, looked ok on the field. Didn't really have to make a lot of good throws, All 3 TDs were basically 99% made by the receiver. Placement was just average all throughout the game with the exception of the 42 yarder.

You can look at this as an insult or speaking harsh, but based on the standards he's set so far, it was an ok game performance wise.

(10-19-2015, 03:58 PM)jj22 Wrote: I agree. Game looked more like old "Good Andy" rather than the new "Dandy Andy".

(10-20-2015, 01:05 AM)Yojimbo Wrote: I'm withholding enthusiasm until I see a prime time game this year.

Andy Dalton

(10-20-2015, 03:21 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Andy has figured it out this season, and I believe, will remain our awesome franchise QB for another decade.

Dalton looked great weeks 1-4 last season, but his play dropped as the season went.

In a presser before the season, Dalton emphasized that he needed to stay consistent with what House and the other throwing 'doctors' prescribed him during the offseason. He admitted that during the course of the season, his emphasis on these aspects of his game diminished, as he gameplanned for opponents. His goal this year was to stay true to his training, focusing on his mechanics throughout the season.






Here is an article from Bengals.com describing such a change.

"With the bye week here, Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton is getting an in-season House call from one of the throwing doctors that spent the offseason with him at Dr. Tom House’s quarterbacks camp.

Adam Dedeaux, one of House’s coaches from the USC facility, came to Paul Brown Stadium Tuesday and said there’s not much for him to do during his visit with the NFL’s second-leading passer.

“The way he is preparing for games is showing up on the field. His body movements overall have been very clean,” Dedeaux said. “There were times last year he got out of mechanical efficiency and I haven’t seen that at all this year.”

Dedeaux said they began to see some break down in his mechanics last year starting during the fourth week of the season. But so far so good. When Dalton began his off-season work back in February, one of the changes he made is setting up on-site sessions during the season to make sure there is no drop-off. Dedeaux figures he’ll make at least one more trip back to Cincinnati this year “just to keep him going.”

“We haven’t seen what we saw last year and I think it comes from his attention to detail and sticking to the process,” Dedeaux said.
Hard to argue with the numbers. Dalton is on pace to shatter every significant club season passing record with a 116.1 passer rating that trails only Tom Brady’s 118.4. Brady, another House client, is tied for second with Dalton with 14 touchdown passes, one behind Aaron Rodgers."






I think Dalton has figured it out, and will remain a stud for a long period of time.

This leads me to my next point, our window. Our window is huge now, and will only get bigger.

The AFC is loaded with great QBs, the kicker, they are all old. In 5 years, Manning, Brady, Big Ben, Phillip Rivers and even Eli will be gone. These teams will be churning out new young QBs who will most likely make mistakes.

Meanwhile, here is Dalton, in his prime, and his only competition in the AFC is an Andrew Luck Colts team... and maybe a few others (Bortles? Mariota?)... I think our window of opportunity is humungous if Dalton can maintain his Brady-esque level of play.

Again, this is looking way way wayyyyy too far ahead, but I think there are some great possibilities in the future.
 

(10-20-2015, 03:27 PM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: The future is looking relatively bright for this team.  Say what you will about management, but I'm sure the majority of the league would love to be where we are from a salary cap and personnel situation.  

(10-20-2015, 03:21 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Andy has figured it out this season, and I believe, will remain our awesome franchise QB for another decade.

Dalton looked great weeks 1-4 last season, but his play dropped as the season went.

In a presser before the season, Dalton emphasized that he needed to stay consistent with what House and the other throwing 'doctors' prescribed him during the offseason. He admitted that during the course of the season, his emphasis on these aspects of his game diminished, as he gameplanned for opponents. His goal this year was to stay true to his training, focusing on his mechanics throughout the season.






Here is an article from Bengals.com describing such a change.

"With the bye week here, Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton is getting an in-season House call from one of the throwing doctors that spent the offseason with him at Dr. Tom House’s quarterbacks camp.

Adam Dedeaux, one of House’s coaches from the USC facility, came to Paul Brown Stadium Tuesday and said there’s not much for him to do during his visit with the NFL’s second-leading passer.

“The way he is preparing for games is showing up on the field. His body movements overall have been very clean,” Dedeaux said. “There were times last year he got out of mechanical efficiency and I haven’t seen that at all this year.”

Dedeaux said they began to see some break down in his mechanics last year starting during the fourth week of the season. But so far so good. When Dalton began his off-season work back in February, one of the changes he made is setting up on-site sessions during the season to make sure there is no drop-off. Dedeaux figures he’ll make at least one more trip back to Cincinnati this year “just to keep him going.”

“We haven’t seen what we saw last year and I think it comes from his attention to detail and sticking to the process,” Dedeaux said.
Hard to argue with the numbers. Dalton is on pace to shatter every significant club season passing record with a 116.1 passer rating that trails only Tom Brady’s 118.4. Brady, another House client, is tied for second with Dalton with 14 touchdown passes, one behind Aaron Rodgers."






I think Dalton has figured it out, and will remain a stud for a long period of time.

This leads me to my next point, our window. Our window is huge now, and will only get bigger.

The AFC is loaded with great QBs, the kicker, they are all old. In 5 years, Manning, Brady, Big Ben, Phillip Rivers and even Eli will be gone. These teams will be churning out new young QBs who will most likely make mistakes.

Meanwhile, here is Dalton, in his prime, and his only competition in the AFC is an Andrew Luck Colts team... and maybe a few others (Bortles? Mariota?)... I think our window of opportunity is humungous if Dalton can maintain his Brady-esque level of play.

Again, this is looking way way wayyyyy too far ahead, but I think there are some great possibilities in the future.