(10-19-2015, 02:47 PM)Stormborn Wrote: Game reminded me of the 2013 Buffalo game, Dalton looked great on paper, looked ok on the field. Didn't really have to make a lot of good throws, All 3 TDs were basically 99% made by the receiver. Placement was just average all throughout the game with the exception of the 42 yarder.

You can look at this as an insult or speaking harsh, but based on the standards he's set so far, it was an ok game performance wise.

(10-20-2015, 06:34 PM)McC Wrote: I don't buy this at all.  He missed a few but he made a lot of good throws.   He completed two thirds after starting out a little rough on the first drive.  He played an outstanding game. 

The TD to Eifert was a perfect throw and I believe it came from a Dalton audible.   The Gio td run, also an audible. Obviously, there is more to it than just throwing. 

He also made yet another great throw on the run, which is something that was barely in his arsenal before this year.  And, most of all, his composure remained unwavering, which is the biggest thing he has done this year.  I saw very little to complain about.

(10-20-2015, 08:44 PM)Stormborn Wrote: The pre-snap stuff doesn't impress me anymore. I expect him to do it, he's done it for a long time. People aren't surprised when Peyton, Brees, Brady do it. I would challenge you on that Eifert throw, if you wanna talk about perfect, but I'm not gonna get that picky. 

You still got some skittishness in clean pockets, you still got inconsistent placement and accuracy. You saw traits of his past self. 

And that's fine.

Because he played well enough. That's the point. It wasn't his best day of the year and they still looked like a top tier offense because they are a top their offense. In the past you see some of these things and know that it just isn't his day. He played ok and they won by 2 scores. His standard of ok has raised which is what I'm trying to get across here.

(10-25-2015, 05:11 PM)West Union KennyG Wrote: So quiet in here right now...

Question of the day:  Is Andrew Luck 'Elite?'

(10-25-2015, 05:11 PM)West Union KennyG Wrote: So quiet in here right now...

Question of the day:  Is Andrew Luck 'Elite?'

(10-25-2015, 10:09 PM)BengalChris Wrote: I'd have traded for him this off season, no doubt. With out OL he probably wouldn't be playing injured.

Of course, Dalton has turned the corner and appears to be hitting his stride. Luck's day will come, I am certain.

(10-25-2015, 10:26 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Colts OL didn't look bad when Hasselbeck was in.

(10-25-2015, 10:09 PM)BengalChris Wrote: I'd have traded for him this off season, no doubt. With out OL he probably wouldn't be playing injured.

Of course, Dalton has turned the corner and appears to be hitting his stride. Luck's day will come, I am certain.

(10-25-2015, 10:09 PM)BengalChris Wrote: I'd have traded for him this off season, no doubt. With out OL he probably wouldn't be playing injured.

Of course, Dalton has turned the corner and appears to be hitting his stride. Luck's day will come, I am certain.

(10-26-2015, 12:54 AM)West Union KennyG Wrote: I've watched a couple Colts games this year.  I don't know if its possible to track these things, but it has seemed as if Luck holds onto the ball twice as long as Dalton does.  That's just my naked eye observation.  

(10-26-2015, 11:00 AM)jj22 Wrote: Luck's always been a turnover machine. Even in the playoffs. He's just got away with it like the other darlings because he's a high draft pick with a perceived big arm. It's what got Bradford, Stafford, Cutler, etc many years without taking the heat Dalton takes.

Luck will survive this year with his elite status. They won't be calling for the Colts to draft a qb, unlike Daltons previous career year of 2013 and that offseason where pundits said we needed to consider it.

(10-26-2015, 09:48 AM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: Dalton is 5th fastest in the league at 2.36 seconds, whereas Luck is 23rd at 2.79 seconds.  You would think having a supposedly poor O-line he would get rid of it faster.  Hasselback averaged 2.28 seconds until release.  

(10-26-2015, 12:24 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Heck, the Colt's o-line hasn't given up many sacks over the last couple seasons, with Hasselbeck nor Luck. They have allowed a lot of pressures on Luck, but I'd say Luck's poor release times have been a factor in that.

I honestly feel sorry for Luck's teammates. Their D has been decent the last couple years and they've always had solid weapons. The o-line takes a disproportionate amount of criticism.

People always blame every shortcoming on Luck's teammates. The dude is good, but he still has some pretty big flaws...obviously. He turn's it over too much (both INT's and fumbles), he holds the ball too long (which probably contributes to the turnovers), and he's been almost as bad as Dalton in the playoffs (where he's set records for turnovers).

Eventually people are going to have to shift their narratives with him. He's not elite yet. An elite QB would elevate his teammates anyway.

(10-27-2015, 03:02 AM)West Union KennyG Wrote: I'm eventually (maybe) going to make a statement about this whole 'elite' argument...
But first, another question:  Joe Flacco, Super Bowl Ring, Elite?