(03-17-2021, 05:38 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: A third RD pick is a potential number of things, not just a potential starter.  The last thing you want to do is count on a 3rd round pick to immediately be able to come in and start.  At the very least, they should have to earn it by beating out other capable starters.

Also, these 3rd round picks were all potential starters too:

-Sean Brewer
-Matt Schoebel
-Caleb Miller
-Chase Coffman
-Brandon Ghee
-Dontay Moch
-Brandon Thompson
-Will Clarke
-Tyler Kroft
-Paul Dawson
-Nick Vigil
-Jordan Willis
-Malik Jefferson

That's 13 guys in the last 20 years that never became full-time starters, much less immediately.

Also, there's a whole other list of names I'm not including in this that were/are far, far from great:  Germaine Pratt, Shawn Williams, Jordan Shipley, Pat Sims, Andre Caldwell, Frostee Rucker, Kelly Washington, Landon Johnson, and Ron Dugans.

There were some guys in this list that were ok, and serviceable but none all that good.  How many of these guys were ready to start from day 1?

If the Bengals go into the season with Hopkins still injured, a 3rd round center and Billy Price then they're asking for trouble.  And you can remove Hopkins and Price from this and change the position and my point still stands.

You don't count on 3rd rounders for shit, especially if you're the Bengals.

(03-17-2021, 05:42 PM)Gamma Ray Tan Wrote: Technically, I guess replacing bad players with equally bad players is addressing it. But in my book, it’s not caring enough to bring a SUBSTANTIAL upgrade to the position which I consider ignoring it. So, if they are not ignoring it and this is what they consider “good enough” and you want to defend it ...... I don’t know what to tell ya.

(03-17-2021, 05:49 PM)fredtoast Wrote: And how wad last yesr complete bullshit?

(03-17-2021, 04:26 PM)Fulcher_33 Wrote: Hell yeah Fulcher was a monster.... hence my SN :)

Wyce -  Raiders with Bo were ridiculous, but dont sleep on the "Lions" in that game. They had Barry, and J.Ball at NT with the Dive on snap cheat/technique and get the sack made my friends break numerous controllers LOL...

Okay I'm putting the 90's to bed. Thanks for brining back the memories, even though from a Bengals perspective they were forgettable. 

Back to the 2021 FAs..... LETS GET SOME OL!!

(03-17-2021, 05:41 PM)fredtoast Wrote: You are wrong. I guarantee the Bengals upgrade the talent on our O-line this offseason.

Of course we could sign an All-Pro and you would still find some reason to whine and cry about it.

(03-17-2021, 05:49 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: Literally 3 quality linemen have CHANGED  teams via free agency. Thuney and Linsley. Maybe another one I’m missing, but you’re acting as if like 20 linemen chose other teams.

There are more than 3 quality linemen out.

(03-17-2021, 05:08 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I think most people probably think of that year as the year it started, for those reasons.

I just wanted to point out that this whole scenario has been going on for a whopping 5 seasons and counting.

The Ogbuehi/Fisher/Bodine flops really hurt this team, and they did little/nothing in FA to remedy the situation.

(03-17-2021, 05:49 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: Literally 3 quality linemen have CHANGED  teams via free agency. Thuney and Linsley. Maybe another one I’m missing, but you’re acting as if like 20 linemen chose other teams.

There are more than 3 quality linemen out.

(03-17-2021, 05:11 PM)J24 Wrote: A third RD pick is a potential starter and they already have a Center in Hopkins.

(03-17-2021, 04:12 PM)Schmitbuck Wrote: Cool. Tell me more.

(03-17-2021, 05:31 PM)samhain Wrote: IIRC Trey couldn't hold down a starting guard spot when given the chance, then came into his own at center.  Honestly, I wouldn't be mad if they upgraded the position, but I'm not breaking out the torches and pitchforks if they don't.  The major need is at both guard spots, then RT.  I think it's a virtual lock that a first or second is going toward a tackle, so not overly upset about them not pursuing tackles.  

If they stand pat at guard however, that's pretty pathetic.  The guys we have are slightly below average in XSF to awful with Redmond and MJ.  They need to upgrade, no question about it.  

(03-17-2021, 05:01 PM)Whatever Wrote: Probably the same reason the Pats and Jets, both of whom have more cap space to spend than us and were after Thuney didn't get him.

KC doesn't need a WR1, 2 G's, a RT, maybe a C and a TE, 2 CB's, and 2 edge rushers like we do.  That allows them to concentrate their cap dollars on top players at positions of need while we have more cap dollars, but have to allocate those dollars to a lot more positions to fill holes.   

(03-17-2021, 05:42 PM)TJ528 Wrote: Hmmm I've seen this movie before when we lined up Jake Fisher and Cedric Ogbuehi.  

Which if i remember right 1 was drafted in the 1st round and the other the 2nd round.  

They plugged one in at tackle and the other at guard and they both sucked. 

So yea just plan on plug and play with OL cause as we can see it's worked for them in the past. 

(03-17-2021, 05:52 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The problem with all you whiners is that you can't just say that the Bengals made mistakes. That does not make you big enough victims I guess. Instead you have to make up total bullshit about them "not even trying".

(03-17-2021, 06:00 PM)Wyche Wrote: Who is out with an ACL....

(03-17-2021, 05:41 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Of course we could sign an All-Pro and you would still find some reason to whine and cry about it.

(03-17-2021, 03:29 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Few can.  99% of normal males were immediately taking that Prodigy disk that came in the mail, and spending the entirity of the free trial waiting 20 minutes at a time for some titty pic to download.