(04-01-2017, 01:01 PM)OrlandoBengal Wrote: Sorry Fred, but this is an asshole statement on your part.  The police were not out of line that night, there are no questions that they abused him or his rights.  If anything, they seemed to show great restraint.

(04-01-2017, 01:38 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote:  In this instance the cops did a great job and Adam was an idiot.

(04-02-2017, 10:23 AM)fredtoast Wrote: They piled bogus charges on him that are already getting dismissed even before being challenged by the defense.

Is that how you define "great restraint"?  Over charging a defendant to make his bond higher and public embarrassment worse?

(04-02-2017, 10:26 AM)fredtoast Wrote: In this case the police over charged Adam because they were upset and being petty.

(04-02-2017, 10:23 AM)fredtoast Wrote: They piled bogus charges on him that are already getting dismissed even before being challenged by the defense.

Is that how you define "great restraint"?  Over charging a defendant to make his bond higher and public embarrassment worse?

(04-02-2017, 10:26 AM)fredtoast Wrote: In this case the police over charged Adam because they were upset and being petty.

(04-02-2017, 09:31 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Over charged him?

Adam was the one acting he was still in high school.

The cops did their job and did it with restraint.

Adam should of been home with his wife and child.

(04-02-2017, 09:57 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: You'd think with his past, and being under the microscope that he'd be the last person still out partying...  yet there he was... like a real dumbass.

Doesn't matter what supposed trumped up charges he had.  He of all people should know to keep it safe and low key.

All of you posters trying to defend this guy keep in mind how many times he's had issues.  Repeat offender even if he skates or gets a plea deal.

He's still putting himself in very stupid situations and is a vet in the league.

(04-02-2017, 09:31 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Over charged him?

Adam was the one acting he was still in high school.

The cops did their job and did it with restraint.

Adam should of been home with his wife and child.

(04-02-2017, 09:57 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: You'd think with his past, and being under the microscope that he'd be the last person still out partying...  yet there he was... like a real dumbass.

Doesn't matter what supposed trumped up charges he had.  He of all people should know to keep it safe and low key.

All of you posters trying to defend this guy keep in mind how many times he's had issues.  Repeat offender even if he skates or gets a plea deal.

He's still putting himself in very stupid situations and is a vet in the league.

(04-02-2017, 10:32 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: No doubt. They should have added aggravated dumbassness as well.


Way past the age of knowing what is right and what is wrong.

(03-29-2017, 04:22 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: When Mike says that Adam did a stupid thing and that we've all done stupid things...he's missing, or purposely avoiding, the point. Adam has continued to do stupid things and has showed no real ability to control himself in a way that would prevent him from doing more stupid things in the future.

And, when Mike states that Adam embarrassing himself is punishment enough...he has completely enabled Adam's actions. Adam knows that he will not be held accountable, in any real way, by the owner or the head coach. So what incentive - from within the organization - does he have to stop doing stupid things? Not only has he has proven time and time again that 'embarrassment' certainly isn't a deterrent, but he also knows that he won't be held accountable by Brown and Lewis.

(04-02-2017, 11:04 PM)wildcats forever Wrote: What Mike Brown has done (with this statement) is turn over his responsibility of holding his employees accountable to the League. Mike just can't bring himself to be the leader that makes the hard decisions. The premature baby story is a heart warmer. Part of me sees why Mike has a problem with taking the good life away from this 5 year old child, especially when she did nothing to deserve it. 

Another thing not known is exactly how much Jones figures into the 2017 scheme. Maybe Marvin has told Mike that Jones will be used sparingly (or vice versa), and allow him to play out his contract while providing insurance to the younger players getting a chance that many here clamor for.....which further enables Mike to be passive about this. Regardless, the League and the Court will decide if Jones has had his quota of chances - not Mike Brown or the fans. You know, the tried and true Bengal Way.

(04-03-2017, 12:54 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I totally agree with what you're saying. But it's not like Jones has been making minimum wage these past 10 years and is going to be standing in the cheese line a week after he's released.

He's a big boy and has crossed the line way to many times. And he's a discipline problem on the field as well as declining in skill set. Mike needs to stand up and say you're not giving my team another black eye !

(04-06-2017, 02:16 PM)bonesaw Wrote: I've never said this but....... I'm ready for Marvin to move on.  He'll never admit his mistakes or correct them until it's too late.  We've proved we can't win when it counts letting people who can't control their emotions act like idiots, but we keep defending them.  

ATleast say he acted like a complete dick but 99% of the time he is a good dude, we will try and help him correct that 1%.  Don't say he didn't really do nothing.  Stupid message to the team, fans, kids, city, law enforcement officers, etc.....

People are witch hunting PacMan here because Him, Jeremy Hill, and Vontaze couldn't control their emotions and cost us a playoff win.  Now he's still doing the same out of control shit.  

Sam Wyche might have kept him around but you damn sure better believe he would've told him you act like a dick again and you can take your ass to Cleveland or the unemployment line

Haha, take your ass to Cleveland.

(04-02-2017, 11:59 AM)grampahol Wrote: Not to defend Jones, I'm not, but I have been arrested a few times in my life whilst drunk. Certainly nothing to be proud of, but I do know that when you get arrested the police quite often, in fact in most cases will toss in as many bogus charges as possible hoping that some will stick. 
I had a DUI charge many years ago and at the time had tools in my car. I was charged with multiple counts of possession of burglary tools among several other outrageously false charges. Was I guilty of drunk driving? Absolutely, but the rest of the charges were bullshit and all but thie DUI was dropped because they were just made up. If it had made the news the public would have thought I was the worst criminal since John Dillinger .. This is how our criminal justice system works. First we have the trial of public opinion and then we have the real trial. They almost never match up. 
Here's a good example. Ever notice when someone gets busted for growing marijuana in their yard the police love to claim a street value of a gazillion dollars when they're including the stalks, the roots and even the dirt sticking to the roots ? I'm not a big pot head, but I do know that few, if any people smoke marijuana roots and nobody I know of smokes dirt sticking to the roots. 

(04-07-2017, 11:15 AM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote:  You must have been a real ass for them to even charge you.

(04-08-2017, 10:13 AM)fredtoast Wrote: So you admit that police charge people based on their attitude instead of the actual facts.

That is exactly what happened here with Adam.  Boguis charges based on his attitude instead of what he actually did.

Stay classy Po Po.